[Trailers] First trailer for the Ghostbusters reboot

Pagy said:
the sjw bs has already started my sister has already replied to my ridicule of this piece of shit with "why cant an all female cast be funny"

boy i cant wait for facebook wars when this shit hits the fan
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An all female cast could absolutely be funny, but this is entirely the wrong cast. This reeks of bad studio decisions from day 1. All four actresses have backgrounds in sketch comedy and improv, which require a more caricature style of acting, and cost a fraction of any decent character actor. They hired a writer who wrote for MadTV and her only film credit is writing The Heat, starring Melissa McCarthy who improvises pretty much every scene anyway. All of this evidence of a script that would be hit or miss improv bits, and cheap laughs however you can get them, held together by a weak narrative. One of the leaked scenes is apparently a possessed Chris Hemsworth possessing the entire police force and making them do a song and dance number on the streets.

Then there's other obvious studio choices that point towards the poor quality of the film. The bright and colorful ghosts are clearly meant to be kid friendly to push a younger audience and greater toy sales. Toy sales, by the way, that are being marketed towards boys and not girls. There's outrage over this, but they wouldn't do it if it weren't readily apparent to the producers that boys will be the primary purchasers of those toys.

They're calling it a remake, saying the first film never happened. This is not a sequel, it's a complete do-over. Well that's pretty damn disrespectful to an iconic brand, but ok, let's run with it. If it's a complete remake, then why offer any fan service whatsoever? Don't do any cameos (according to leaked Sony emails, they were planning to sue Bill Murray if he didn't make a cameo). Don't show the firehouse when their HQ is apparently going to be a chinese restaurant. Don't have Slimer. Don't end the film with a tease of Gozer (supposedly), which is so lazy I can't even begin. Make it your own film. Otherwise it just comes across as a cheap cash grab with the hope of some sort of bullshit "cinematic universe" for Ghostbusters instead of just making a series of new Ghostbusters sequels.

Here's probably how the conversation between studio heads went: "How can we make a Ghostbusters movie in time for July 15, 2016 for the least amount of money possible and sell a shitload of toys? Well we'll hire Paul Feig to direct people he's directed before, a bunch of cheap SNL cast members to start shooting without a script, and rely on the brand to push ticket sales."

All of this is evidenced by the trailers and behind the scenes talk, but logic be damned. It's just misogyny.
 
Yea but in the Female led Groundhog Day, it's everyone else who are assholes and she has to be there long enough to figure out how to make them all better people.
 
The more I think about it, the more writing a Ghostbusters soft reboot seems like a monumentally easy task, and that they're failing so spectacularly is a literal cry for help from Hollywood. All you need to do is start with the existing story and expand from there. What happened in the 30 years since Vigo? Where would everyone wind up? How could new characters fit into that world without starting from scratch with some "why the fuck should I care about these characters?" moments.

Start with a world where there have been no ghost sightings since Vigo. Spiritual turbulence was considered an isolated incident, unlikely to repeat. The firehouse becomes a small museum dedicated to the paranormal, Ray resumes his Occult Bookstore, Egon passes away during one of his weird experiments on himself, Venkman and Dana eventually split up for good.

Now it's 30 years later. Enter our new characters. Let's do a Jennifer Lawrence/Emma Stone type who turns out to be Katherine, the illegitimate daughter of Venkman and the blond he banged at the start of Ghostbusters, and whom Venkman refers to as "Kitten" much to her annoyance. She follows in her father's footsteps, earning doctorates in psychology and parapsychology, and struggles to find identity among her peers who mostly consider her legacy to be a laughing stock.

Her mentor, perhaps played by someone like Amy Adams, is an expert in quantum mechanics, and they work tirelessly together to prove that not only were the events of 30 years ago not isolated, but that multiple spiritual dimensions coexist and can be crossed at will.

The third Ghostbuster would be your woman of color, Aisha Taylor would be a good choice. She's the niece of Winston, and the most spiritually knowledgeable of the group as an Occult professor and religious iconography expert. Often snarky because everyone is always ignorant of the origins of everything.

The fourth you go gravitas. Let's bring in Helen Mirren as the widow of Egon, who not only possesses the only working versions of the original proton packs and traps, but also has in her possession some new tools that he was working on before he died. Every bit the eccentric scientist and engineer, she's been trying to finish his work since his passing.

So what's the plot? Shit starts happening again towards the end of 2015, leading up to a climatic event happening on February 14, 2016 as predicted on World of the Psychic in Ghostbusters 2 (if you recall the first person to predict the end of the world was also right as Vigo came on New Years of that year). So tie it into Valentines Day. A worshiper of Pan or Lupercus is trying to bring back the ritual of Lupercalia, committing pagan acts and rituals which begin to unleash spiritual energy in New York again. The women come together, update the equipment and begin testing their theories as they investigate. They conclude that the incidents seem focused on romantically involved people, culminating in the fight with the big bad cultist and demigod. The cultist turns out to be Oscar Barrett, son of Dana and Venkman, who parallels Katherine's struggle with identity and the absence of a father figure. He'd be a concert pan flutist just to throw in an early clue and a reference to his mother being a symphony violinist. Then all you need is a purely comedic sidekick character and a decent minor villain foil like Peck and you've got a pretty solid movie doing both fan service and opening the possibility for sequels.
 
Can we make it so that when SA invades - all they see is a loop of the new GB trailer? You know, kind of like pouring boiling oil off the ramparts?
 
Fool said:
An all female cast could absolutely be funny, but this is entirely the wrong cast. This reeks of bad studio decisions from day 1. All four actresses have backgrounds in sketch comedy and improv, which require a more caricature style of acting, and cost a fraction of any decent character actor. They hired a writer who wrote for MadTV and her only film credit is writing The Heat, starring Melissa McCarthy who improvises pretty much every scene anyway. All of this evidence of a script that would be hit or miss improv bits, and cheap laughs however you can get them, held together by a weak narrative. One of the leaked scenes is apparently a possessed Chris Hemsworth possessing the entire police force and making them do a song and dance number on the streets.

Then there's other obvious studio choices that point towards the poor quality of the film. The bright and colorful ghosts are clearly meant to be kid friendly to push a younger audience and greater toy sales. Toy sales, by the way, that are being marketed towards boys and not girls. There's outrage over this, but they wouldn't do it if it weren't readily apparent to the producers that boys will be the primary purchasers of those toys.

They're calling it a remake, saying the first film never happened. This is not a sequel, it's a complete do-over. Well that's pretty damn disrespectful to an iconic brand, but ok, let's run with it. If it's a complete remake, then why offer any fan service whatsoever? Don't do any cameos (according to leaked Sony emails, they were planning to sue Bill Murray if he didn't make a cameo). Don't show the firehouse when their HQ is apparently going to be a chinese restaurant. Don't have Slimer. Don't end the film with a tease of Gozer (supposedly), which is so lazy I can't even begin. Make it your own film. Otherwise it just comes across as a cheap cash grab with the hope of some sort of bullshit "cinematic universe" for Ghostbusters instead of just making a series of new Ghostbusters sequels.

Here's probably how the conversation between studio heads went: "How can we make a Ghostbusters movie in time for July 15, 2016 for the least amount of money possible and sell a shitload of toys? Well we'll hire Paul Feig to direct people he's directed before, a bunch of cheap SNL cast members to start shooting without a script, and rely on the brand to push ticket sales."

All of this is evidenced by the trailers and behind the scenes talk, but logic be damned. It's just misogyny.
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I caught two of these three videos back when they came out, kind of a depressing clusterfuck of a state the film was in once the trailer dropped.





 
Fool said:
The more I think about it, the more writing a Ghostbusters soft reboot seems like a monumentally easy task, and that they're failing so spectacularly is a literal cry for help from Hollywood. All you need to do is start with the existing story and expand from there. What happened in the 30 years since Vigo? Where would everyone wind up? How could new characters fit into that world without starting from scratch with some "why the fuck should I care about these characters?" moments.

Start with a world where there have been no ghost sightings since Vigo. Spiritual turbulence was considered an isolated incident, unlikely to repeat. The firehouse becomes a small museum dedicated to the paranormal, Ray resumes his Occult Bookstore, Egon passes away during one of his weird experiments on himself, Venkman and Dana eventually split up for good.

Now it's 30 years later. Enter our new characters. Let's do a Jennifer Lawrence/Emma Stone type who turns out to be Katherine, the illegitimate daughter of Venkman and the blond he banged at the start of Ghostbusters, and whom Venkman refers to as "Kitten" much to her annoyance. She follows in her father's footsteps, earning doctorates in psychology and parapsychology, and struggles to find identity among her peers who mostly consider her legacy to be a laughing stock.

Her mentor, perhaps played by someone like Amy Adams, is an expert in quantum mechanics, and they work tirelessly together to prove that not only were the events of 30 years ago not isolated, but that multiple spiritual dimensions coexist and can be crossed at will.

The third Ghostbuster would be your woman of color, Aisha Taylor would be a good choice. She's the niece of Winston, and the most spiritually knowledgeable of the group as an Occult professor and religious iconography expert. Often snarky because everyone is always ignorant of the origins of everything.

The fourth you go gravitas. Let's bring in Helen Mirren as the widow of Egon, who not only possesses the only working versions of the original proton packs and traps, but also has in her possession some new tools that he was working on before he died. Every bit the eccentric scientist and engineer, she's been trying to finish his work since his passing.

So what's the plot? Shit starts happening again towards the end of 2015, leading up to a climatic event happening on February 14, 2016 as predicted on World of the Psychic in Ghostbusters 2 (if you recall the first person to predict the end of the world was also right as Vigo came on New Years of that year). So tie it into Valentines Day. A worshiper of Pan or Lupercus is trying to bring back the ritual of Lupercalia, committing pagan acts and rituals which begin to unleash spiritual energy in New York again. The women come together, update the equipment and begin testing their theories as they investigate. They conclude that the incidents seem focused on romantically involved people, culminating in the fight with the big bad cultist and demigod. The cultist turns out to be Oscar Barrett, son of Dana and Venkman, who parallels Katherine's struggle with identity and the absence of a father figure. He'd be a concert pan flutist just to throw in an early clue and a reference to his mother being a symphony violinist. Then all you need is a purely comedic sidekick character and a decent minor villain foil like Peck and you've got a pretty solid movie doing both fan service and opening the possibility for sequels.
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I would watch this movie. I won't see the actual one unless it ends up on Netflix or prime
 
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