Wow mr.angrypants, did you fall off the wagon? (I just spoke to you again)
Edit: Guess who did the personal attack
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Wow mr.angrypants, did you fall off the wagon? (I just spoke to you again)
Edit: Guess who did the personal attack
I have "thought about" all kinds of fucked up shit. If the governor hadn't thought about possible responses to the protest on his own, I would hope he would have staff that would bring options to him. I imagine the unions are "thinking about" leaving people without police and fire protection to move their agenda forward.
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I find that very laughable
Esteban_Villa
Veteran XV
vanster i think unions have way too much power, especially in the public sector where politicians have a conflict of interest between keeping their employees happy and keeping the books happy. good for him breaking
that being said as with all things in politics, let the side with the majority win and the losers move on, for a few years anyways.
ps, good post
that being said as with all things in politics, let the side with the majority win and the losers move on, for a few years anyways.
ps, good post
Vanster is a Democrat, he'd run and hide in another state.
This really says a lot from a skinny ugly asian nerd.
The problem is, the Unions have a 'good thing' going with the Democrats. They give donations to the Democrats in order for the Democrats to be elected and the Democrats find a way to keep the Unions happy, usually by screwing the tax payer.
Come now. I'm a lefty, but even I can tell that has plenty of slant. Isn't it possible that employee pensions and health care are being reconsidered because their growth slope is unsustainable? Could it be the poor people are hurt by budget cuts because much of the budget is devoted to assisting poor people?
The article has a point of view worth some consideration, but let's not pretend it's straight up neutral.
the interesting thing is that we inadvertently pay the Democrats to elected because we pay these public employee's through our tax dollars which they end up giving to the Democrats through union dues to get elected.
Yeah, but he admitted out loud that he'd thought about it. It's not like thinking "I'd like to wring so-and-so's neck" and then going on. . .it's something he discussed doing. "We thought about it."
As far as the firefighters and cops, none of them have missed work to protest yet. Teachers have, and some others I think. So far I think the Unions have been pretty on the level here. The only dirty tricks played have been that blogger guy that pretended to be David Koch, and the 14 senators that left the state so the Republicans would have no quorum.
Walker continues to say that most of the protesters are out of state people . .I guess that's not a dirty trick as much as it is just a lie that sounds plausible to anyone that isn't here. Anyone that is actually here knows that there are hardly any people from out of state.
Cops have been amazing through all of this. Their conduct has been exemplary. There has been about about 500 of them each day, and I haven't seen any heavy-handedness at all.
No matter what side you're on, I think it's cool that parents are bringing their kids to this.
Even though we took less wages in exchange for the benefits and pensions we have, we've offered to give him everything he's asked monetarily, if he will remove the part banning unions from collective bargaining. He said no. This is not about repairing the budget.
As far as poor people go, I don't know any that are in unions. We are middle class, all of us. We work hard, and we all have jobs that need to be done. It's not like a bunch of stock-brokers or used car salesmen are threatening to strike here. It's construction workers, machinists, truckers, welders, teachers, nurses--there have been a few hobos wandering around, mostly to get some of the food inside, but the police are escorting them back out as soon as they see them.
yeah, that's pretty much what I said. Even worse is that students are taught by these Union loving teachers who speak out against business. I call it a conflict of interest when you teach children to hate Republicans because Democrats and Unions pay you to.
Edofnor
Veteran XX
That really does have to be the dumbest thing ever. I'm not sure what the big deal is. Unions gave way more than the Koch Brothers to their candidates in Wisconsin.
What's it like being funded by a Union 'business', Vanster?
Wrong. Showing that you are pretty ignorant about unions. Unions didn't start after having specific provisions in laws granting them power. You always have the right to collectively bargain if you so choose. What this bill does, as does any bill 'stripping collective bargaining rights', is that the state is no longer forced to enter negotitions if it chooses not to. Furthermore, individuals can choose to opt if they want to bargain individual. So the bill increases the rights of taxpayers as they are not forced to make concessions, and increases the rights of employees as they are not forced to support a union, while the rights of the unions has not changed. Does this change their bargaining power in the future? Yes. Their rights... no.
America's future is being taught by libtards that have no idea of the meaning of rights. And with that, I'll close with a quote from the godfather of liberal politics
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Yeah, FDR thought public employee unions were bullshit.