Would you rather be reincarnated as a PzKpfw III Ausf. E or StuG III Ausf. G?

triple said:
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Leave it to triple to fag up a thread about possibly the most manly thing that has ever existed (German armor.)
 
Kurayami said:
Oh, right.
I vaguely recall you mentioning it.
How did it come into your possession, again?
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I found it in my dead step-grandfathers attic. The only good thing to come out of my stepmother. It's of a North AFrican soldier. Amazing photos.

Ill check back later, im gonna get back to drunk
 
olaf said:
I found it in my dead step-grandfathers attic. The only good thing to come out of my stepmother. It's of a North AFrican soldier. Amazing photos.

Ill check back later, im gonna get back to drunk
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Ah. Cool.

I'd be cautious of calling it a "Nazi photo album" unless you know that he was a National Socialist, though. The vast majority of the guys in the Werhmacht were no more "good Nazis" than US soldiers were fanatical democrats or Soviet soldiers were Bolshevik loyalists.

Branding all Germans between the years of 1939 and 1945 as "Nazis" is probably the greatest crime against history that the Allies perpetuated.

Although one could also argue that the "creative wording" used for what amount to Allied war crimes is also up there.

History should not be perverted with all-inclusive labels.
 
Kurayami said:
I just got some Jagdpanzers in Theatre of War.

I was like

"Yeah, fucking Jagdpanzers!"

But then two T-34s came out from the trees and knocked them out in 30 seconds.

And I thought

"Poor Jagdpanzers :( "


I suspect that ToW fudges the numbers a bit RE: Soviet armor.

The last battle I fought pitted 2 StuG III Ausf. Gs, 3 PzKpfw IV Ausf. Hs, 2 PzKpfw VIs, and a couple of useless halftracks (SdKfz 251s, I think) against half a dozen T-34s and probably 10 SU-100s.

Taking out a T-34 in short order basically required the Tigers to coordinate fire on the same tank. I think it took the StuGs five minutes to bring one down from ~2000m.

I won, but I lost both StuGs and one PzKpfw IV. The remaining tanks were all immobilized from either throwing a track or crew casualties.

It seems to me that a Tiger should be more than capable of taking on a T-34 under any circumstances.

But ToW was made in Russia.
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soviet revisionist history, you cant blame them. the ghost of michael wittman is displeased though!

t34 did rock it though but vs tigers? nahhhh tigers were FOR t34 hunting (or jaegering i should say?)

i see you didnt have the balls to throw in any kv-1s har har

i dont knew anything about ToW enlighten me (or just toss a link)

any armor game with a custom format that lets me throw in worthless halftracks sounds like a blast
 
Stugs suck of course the III wasn't that great either unless you are talking about the up armored and gun ones...
 
"Probably the most successful engagement involving Sturmgeschutz III Ausf F took place in Stalingrad in early September of 1942. Stug III Ausf F from Stug.Abt.244, commanded by Oberwachtmeister Kurt Pfreundtner destroyed 9 Soviet tanks in 20 minutes. On September 18th of 1942, Oberwachtmeister Kurt Pfreundtner received the Knights Cross for this achievement.

Another Sturmgeschutz ace was the Knights Cross holder Wachtmeister Kurt Kirchner from Stug.Abt.667, who destroyed 30 Soviet tanks during few days in February of 1942 during fighting in Northern Russia.

Hauptmann Peter Franz also the Knights Cross holder and the commander of Stug.Abt. "Grossdeutschland" destroyed some 43 Soviet T-34/76 tanks during the Battle for Borissovka on March 14th of 1943.

In the middle of July of 1941, Oberfeldwebel Rudolf Jaenicke (Stug number 25), commander of Stug platoon destroyed 12 Soviet BT-2 tanks along with tractors and other equipment loaded on rail platforms.

Between 1st and 4th of January of 1943, Unteroffizier Horst Naumann from Stug.Abt.184 destroyed 12 Soviet tanks during heavy fighting in the Demyansk area. On January 4th, Naumann was awarded with Knight's Cross for destruction of total of 27 enemy tanks.

The most notable of all Stug aces were von Malachowski, Franz and especially Knight's Cross holder Oberwachtmeister Hugo Primozic of Stug.Abt.667.

The most notable Waffen SS Stug ace was SS-Sturmbannfuehrer Walter Kniep, who commanded the 2nd Sturmgeschuetz Abteilung of 2nd SS Panzer Division "Das Reich". From July 5th of 1943 to January 17th of 1944, his unit claimed destruction of some 129 Soviet tanks, while losing two Stugs. Kniep was then awarded the Knight's Cross. "


I'll take a Stug please. Turrets are overrated.
 
Hauptmann Peter Franz also the Knights Cross holder and the commander of Stug.Abt. "Grossdeutschland" destroyed some 43 Soviet T-34/76 tanks during the Battle for Borissovka on March 14th of 1943.



wtf did he have to go back and get more ammunition a couple of times jesus christ
 
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