[UKRAINE] whose side are you on ??

[Reggs]

Daily Stormer has a good collection of events that are most likely fake/lied about:

https://dailystormer.name/the-battle-for-kiev-is-the-silliest-war-yet-the-level-of-disinformation-is-absurd/

I was suspicious of the tank running over the car since the tank didn't have the white Z. And that "missile attack" doesn't even make sense. Why would it hit an apartment? Why didn't it explode or even go through the building? Ukrainians said soon after no one was killed! Maybe the missile and the building were both fake. Why would an apartment building have no people in it?

We have seen pictures of Zelenskyy outside playing soldier, but there is nothing recognizable in the backgrounds. Just generic concrete buildings and rubble. Kind of looks like Israel. Or Russia. Or China. When Syria was being invaded Assad would appear in public squares so there was no doubt he was really there.

 

[KittyCat]

Nothing about this invasion shows reckless killing of civilians. Its just not happening. This offensive is subdued and fairly precise. The amount of disinformation flying through OSINT sources is staggering. I've been watching this intently from the first shots and this part is by far the most interesting thing to note from the whole affair.

Russia is actually taking significant casualties for day 3

Not sure what osint your following bro

Not that it makes a difference it's only day 3

 

[amRam]

Russia is actually taking significant casualties for day 3

According to?

 

[Reggs]

Edit

 

[Goshin]

They just want to disrupt life so the people say "Hey? Why did the president lead us to this point?" and there is a "coup" etc. They aren't just riding around mowing people down. Yet.

Opening moves still.

Maybe if the world is serious about not letting this shit happen and makes it hurt, perhaps Russia will back off.
I don't think military retaliation is an option. So, get creative but make it effective.

Who the fuck knows. Here we are 2022. Still doing stupid shit.

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Russia is blowing up schools and hospitals
They kill innocent old women
Like


What

 

[Goshin]

If Putin wanted to inflict as much harm on Ukraine as possible... we wouldn't have Ukrainians casually walking up to Russian soldiers and offering them a piece of their mind, or offering them a ride back to Russia.

Kyiv would be under heavy bombardment and no one would be casually driving around sharing the road with Russian armor.

None of this is in line with the narrative of "full invasion, occupation of Ukraine". This is like a much more focused action of a more direct and limited objective.


they're going to bloody Ukraine's nose
embarrass the west, especially NATO and the US administration.
secure the Donbas region and obtain recognition of their independence.
then go home, having signaled their resolve to any pro-Russian faction or neighboring region thinking of joining NATO.



If they end up with all of Ukraine, that would be by accident and the incompetency of the West and Ukraine.

The great thing about humans is ultimately a being has to fire the shot. A lot of captured Russians are saying they didn't want to kill any Ukrainians and are confused about wtf is happening

 

[amRam]

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Russia is blowing up schools and hospitals
They kill innocent old women
Like


What

They are?

They do?

I'm practically addicted to following this fucking war, like, to a fault. Too much free time these last 3 days, and I've seen no concrete evidence that any sort of targeted civilian attacks have occurred. None.

 

[Goshin]

Daily Stormer has a good collection of events that are most likely fake/lied about:

https://dailystormer.name/the-battle-for-kiev-is-the-silliest-war-yet-the-level-of-disinformation-is-absurd/

I was suspicious of the tank running over the car since the tank didn't have the white Z. And that "missile attack" doesn't even make sense. Why would it hit an apartment? Why didn't it explode or even go through the building? Ukrainians said soon after no one was killed! Maybe the missile and the building were both fake. Why would an apartment building have no people in it?

We have seen pictures of Zelenskyy outside playing soldier, but there is nothing recognizable in the backgrounds. Just generic concrete buildings and rubble. Kind of looks like Israel. Or Russia. Or China. When Syria was being invaded Assad would appear in public squares so there was no doubt he was really
This is a far right neo nazi bullshit website

You're a retard that has to fuck your chained to the need sex slave sister

Fucking loser

 

[Goshin]

They are?

They do?

I'm practically addicted to following this fucking war, like, to a fault. Too much free time these last 3 days, and I've seen no concrete evidence that any sort of targeted civilian attacks have occurred. None.

So you aren't looking at videos posted by Ukrainian citizens I guess
Cool

 

[Skipperlipicus]

amram is getting his worldview straight from the kremlin

 

[Veniggs]

neo made the dogfucking life insurance scam artist so mad that he couldn't even quote a post correctly

 

[amRam]

So you aren't looking at videos posted by Ukrainian citizens I guess
Cool

I've seen all the same shit you've seen. One of us is analyzing the information in a rational manner, the other is using emotion.

 

[KittyCat]

amram is getting his worldview straight from the kremlin

seeing amram go full cuck for Putin is kind of sad even for him but he's been wrong on COVID and every other topic so

 

[amRam]

amram is getting his worldview straight from the kremlin

Fuck the Kremlin man, don't give a shit about Russia or Putin. The most interesting part these last few days, for me at least, has been the massive campaign of OSINT disinformation being pushed into western social media. I'm in awe of it. Its very impressive.

 

[Hellsfury]

Anyone notice the suspicious lack of any Russian perspective in their news and media feeds? it is all pro-Ukraine. I don't expect the Russian Military to be livestreaming or anything... but there isn't anything, not even an attempt at curating the narrative from their perspective. So much for the idea of the "open and free internet"... it's an illusion.

For a country under a massive invasion, I'm impressed with the reliability of Ukrainian cell phone and internet service. You'd think that would be the first thing an invader would want to disable.

Also, the various reports and video being seen is surprisingly tame for a brutal invasion by a hostile nation intent on conquering Ukraine... a few tanks driving by, an explosion here or there, some tough sounding banter... very little actual carnage or humanitarian concern so far. No mass casualties, destroyed civilian centers or infrastructure very "clean" so far... for a modern war. A stark contrast compared to past examples of recent history.

 

[Skipperlipicus]

We have seen pictures of Zelenskyy outside playing soldier, but there is nothing recognizable in the backgrounds. Just generic concrete buildings and rubble. Kind of looks like Israel. Or Russia. Or China. When Syria was being invaded Assad would appear in public squares so there was no doubt he was really there.

wtf are you on about... fast forward to ~22 seconds in


it's as though you are making an effort to be as ill-informed as possible.

 

[Reggs]

This is a far right neo nazi bullshit website

You're a retard that has to fuck your chained to the need sex slave sister

Fucking loser

You sound like some feminist ally loser policing people for their websites. You're a much better authority on diapers than you are analyzing the news, dipshit. If we got in a fight Id easily be able to kill you with my bare hands.

 

[HardDrive]

 

[KittyCat]

lmfao reggs are you gonna bring your foam sword

 

[amRam]

Anyone notice the suspicious lack of any Russian perspective in their news and media feeds? it is all pro-Ukraine. I don't expect the Russian Military to be livestreaming or anything... but there isn't anything, not even an attempt at curating the narrative from their perspective. So much for the idea of the "open and free internet"... it's an illusion.

For a country under a massive invasion, I'm impressed with the reliability of Ukrainian cell phone and internet service. You'd think that would be the first thing an invader would want to disable.

Also, the various reports and video being seen is surprisingly tame for a brutal invasion by a hostile nation intent on conquering Ukraine... a few tanks driving by, an explosion here or there, some tough sounding banter... very little actual carnage or humanitarian concern so far. No mass casualties, destroyed civilian centers or infrastructure very "clean" so far... for a modern war. A stark contrast compared to past examples of recent history.

I've definitely noticed a total absence of pro-Russia disinformation being pumped through. 99% of the shit Im seeing is either far-fetched and mostly fake Ukraine "wins", and supposed Russian blunders or purposeful strikes against civilian targets. Quite interesting.

This is a very subdued invasion. It seems to be very clinical, which is what you'd expect after months of planning by one of the world's largest military powers. This idea that Russia is out of steam after barely 72 hours is preposterous.