Tourney rules.

Laughing-Stork said:
There are many resets during each game when both teams will full respawn. So the 12 minute halves are not a big deal. I think balanced mode is a great thing and once people get over the whole "omg this is not how I've played trives for the last 17 years" they will realize this system works and the new strategies that will develop will create a cool atmosphere. Like if you're on the bad side for the first half, you run 3 LD to limit the other team's caps. Stuff like this would be interesting to see if it paid off.
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k i braved past the first sentence and made it to ur second sentence in the second paragraph and then again just fuckin stopped reading


look man

no matter what way u argue

if u arent a fukin noobie

then u kno full resets in the game r mostly terrible or off a rally

teams should never full reset if possible imo cuz it kills chain cap momentum

the best teams never lose momentum


basically u r creating a system that still favors the best players and isnt really anymore fair than the current one and in fact may be more so because it might full out prevent noobies from gaining enough momentum themselves to get those crucial ego boosting 2 caps in the 8-2 blow outs

that is the level i play at

i understand what nuanced and seriously tiny mistakes cause the noobies to get those 2 caps

i kno u think ur a genius cuz u wrote some low level flow chart style tribes guide

but think critically here for once

this will force a massive force full reset at what may be a critical point of game change for many ppl

to me thats just unnatural in a naturally developed metagame invented by a guy called natural

fuck yall eat gopher dicks fags
 
OKAY TIME OUT LETS ALL RESPAWN TOGETHER SO THE PRO GAMER EGO NOOBIES DONT CRY


maybe i got a.d.d. i just only see a few ppl supporting this


everyone else i kno has never had an issue as they were fixed in pus by giving ppl first pick and in matches we just came fukin ready to fight no matter what side we were on


is this the kind of shit noobies that needed hand holding and lessons and only got good post 2008 and into the 2010s support?

yall shuld move to t2 imo and get rid of fall damage and cratering as well cuz i heard that shit hurts feelings too

also lets make the cg a hug gun

fuck gross
 
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Laughing-Stork said:
I think balanced mode is a great thing and once people get over the whole "omg this is not how I've played trives for the last 17 years" they will realize this system works and the new strategies that will develop will create a cool atmosphere. Like if you're on the bad side for the first half, you run 3 LD to limit the other team's caps. Stuff like this would be interesting to see if it paid off.
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k ibraved past the 2nd sentence and read ur whole fucking retard low intelligence garbage trash nigger shit

look nigger boy u never played comp till fukin hawkbats (if u count e or pus ur fukin dumb)

my team

fuck urself get a fukin grip

3 ld has been ran in LT before, 2 chaser, no stand offs, oob throwing, many fuckin things

there r demos of this

it all came to a stop after the viva wtf era

u and opsayo forcing balanced mode isnt what is bringing this back so dont take credit for it


which u probably didnt ever pay much attention to like opsayo cuz everytime i tried to show that kid obscure LT demos from unknowns on #1 taems like rahamn or veilside etc hed ignore them. thing is these matches may have only had 1 pov recorded and released for the whole thing. so he definitely missed out on seeing some larger crowd psychology metaplays and so did u apparently

i wuld like to go back to the viva wtf not rigid metagame

the reason we left it in the first place was from god damn lasthope taking polate away and tr standoffs in anachronism era with snakes getting really popular and later fasicst supported as THE ONLY METHOD TO WIN


u and opsayo both r trying to force a rigid style of game play, while pretending ur bringing something new to the table that everyone has done before

yall is snake oil fuckin salesman

shame
 
If you're such a know it all tribes meta game genius who is smarter than me opsayo and rtcll(apperently everyone else too) why do you lose maps and rage at nice people like izza because you cant cap on be side of sh? Let me guess its because lt is ur retirement of video games and you need to yell at people to force them to become good at the lt meta game fhndjsv dbdjd gsjfb dhdjd hdhshs hdjebtudd hfjdbenfn hdhfndnmdklhpfjf jxvmclaoiqe dhsjansg
 
izza fuckin sucks and throws games by getting put in critical positions he refuses to adapt to just like former killbot tunnel minded cg los of the past nelps etc

i respect him as an arena player and duelist but his flag awareness needs to improve greatly

i do not respect ppl that play rigid formulas like you and opsayo usually tend to especially if ppl have the ability to hf without playing try hard

this is also y snow will say u and binswees use cg as a crutch as u both seem to be some of the only few elites that havent fully commit to disc only and in fact when u do try disc only i often see u start to lose and switch to cg

i get that u can veiw this as balancing the game but sometimes committing to change is good. sometimes it isnt either.

the main thing tho is to respect both unless it crosses bad boundaries.

this fucking balanced mode shit is severely nauseating to me and more pointless nutwaving bureaucratic shit in tribes

i dont think you opsayo or rtcll have bad meta game (as ive been accused of by all of you as well) i just dont think you are as advanced as lix or anemix or even really follow what they do completely

if u do its because u begged for answers instead of seeing the bigger picture urselves naturally


i dont need to ego out and say im better than either or all of you because i dont care or need to be. i just let my playing do the talking. when im finally bad enough to not get picked in pus ill just play another game. tribes is about fun remember that. a lot of the fascist stuff uve pushedi n the past few years since becoming a "somebody" in tribes is all the same shit that made ppl conflict with non as an admin

dont chase as home d EVER ONLY PLAY LT MY WAY ITS THE BEST WAY JAG THATS NOT CAPPING

ANTI CHEAT OWNS *lasthope not working during match time* *uses 1.40 to bypass 1.30*
 
like i said u can learn to play the most supported winning formula and end up playing rigid and only that formula

or u can learn as many as u can and the game will only get deeper and more fun


i culd care less if i lose by 1 point in a high level pu it means nothing to me because its a team game and a 1-4 point loss is indicative of a potentially close exciting game

id rather play ggs than win every game
 
You're absolutely right dare, I'm so far behind in my disc skills that i simply cannot keep up with today's players and start 2 lose when I disc only. And I'm an extremely rigid player as well.
 
Also are you saying you understand what lix and anemix are doing but i do not? So you are like next level compared to me man..wow. plz teach me what i need to know so i can play as well as you do. My eyes are open now dare is a mastermind of tribe lt.
 
Laughing-Stork said:
You're absolutely right dare, I'm so far behind in my disc skills that i simply cannot keep up with today's players and start 2 lose when I disc only. And I'm an extremely rigid player as well.
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this is what i know

i know ive beat u 40-6 in duels 3 maps in a row (that is like 2 hours of dueling) in 2012.

i know ive seen u try to play disc only vs good teams and run to cg to try not get capped out on.

these r fine things and i dont judge. but please dont be mad at me for noticing them and just stating the truth.

maybe other ppl see this maybe they dont idc

Laughing-Stork said:
Also are you saying you understand what lix and anemix are doing but i do not? So you are like next level compared to me man..wow. plz teach me what i need to know so i can play as well as you do. My eyes are open now dare is a mastermind of tribe lt.
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i probably do know the game as well as they do on a conceptual level as an offense player more than u do

but id say any top 20% player could

the small meta mistakes i notice now are the same mistakes i make often when not trying or playing drunk

and i just try to enjoy the games

there r many good ppl who will continue to get better

thats y i encourage ppl not to be one position wonders

instead of i play home d y not i play tribes



i hope u dont find this offensive im just saying the social trend ive noticed is that you and opsayo both have caused much more fruitless drama than nonreg ever did (and he was in the tough as fuck position of running a twl league)

this sort of shit only happened after u two both felt u were accepted by the elite community and good at the game

and it kind of makes me ashamed or not want to associate with either of you

its bad morals purely

i find you and opsayo both to be very zealous in your hate of different opinions and also very absolute that yours are the best and most correct

you basically put everything into an ultimatium and black and white

my metagame knowledge beat urs and was proven to beat urs when you vehemently for years would parrot the nonreg opinion to NEVER CHASE ON HOME D

and then i went and just described many high level decision making processes similar to the home d choice of chase (which u denied should ever be done)

i am king - nail in coffin of stork and opsayo asperger rage by Dare - TribalWar Forums

so basically i added a more nuanced opinion in public than ur guide (or your support ever did)

and i got attacked for it

feel free to attack my metagame point by point or obs me and try to catch me sucking

but i play for myself and my real friends

and i dont think any of them are really gonna attack me

especially lix who most likely doesnt give a flying fuck about these high level sperg arguments

or even anemix who could do this but hes a vampire so who the fuck cares etc
 
it would drive me fucking nuts when my home d chased, sideslash from boat did it a lot

i didnt need his help

and then your base would be fucked, allow for camping etc.. guys like darksoul would take advantage and grab right away and then i wouldnt know where he went and he would also hide

i played home d some with kov, and i would just kill everything near my base and then our cappers wouldnt really need to pass the flag or anything heh

of course players are different now, and cheating, 1.4 w/e
 
i am fine with ppl being driven nuts by home d chase it basically is anchor meta and u r essentially playing god a bit and deciding if ez chain caps can happen or not

ive also played home d disc nade only home d vs anemix lix recently

i did not puss out like stork would and cg when losing

i lost 3 caps in a row due to having fun ma chasing ppl on llamas over the sh arc with my team instead of just pointless dueling the campers who could time a front route or respawn and be clutch or possibly beat me at duel etc

i lost the caps because i didnt connect my ma to stop the capper or clear the stand

and it hpapened 3 times in a row

and then we came back 4 in a row with an offense definitely not even comparable to lix anemix on sh

it might not be the most proven effective super safe but its equally as good and i enjoy the excitment of the play style

notice how none of this is from straight up ignorance or being bad at the game

its from conscious choice on how to play the game

if u ppl want to argue with that thats fine

but arguing about metagame details vs 4 example midair being a t2classic clone supported by opsayo who is street marketing the video game basically as a pseudo employer for midair as far as i can tell inst better either

in fact id say one is way more worse and fucked up and game killing

there r degrees and nuance to everything

im comfortable existing in mine and arguing mine in public

dont be sad that u may lose/be proven dumb/limited/rigid/black and white/etc if u argue vs me

this is just what im good at and care about

everyone is wrong but this stuff is too logically formatted to really argue with

as far as im concerned if u have the ability to chase as home d and prevent regrabs at the same time then do it

from what i understand this is the opinion stork and opsayo turned to after i berate them that chasing as home d is sometimes out in situations. like breakaway caps.


we can keep playing the opsayo stork need ego reinforcement from the video game game

or we can move on and try to influence midair to be the best game it can be as a group

one thing is very certain here is that i am more than capable of reverse character assasinating anyone that tries to do it with me

so pls gl to any1 that resorts to that instead of arguing nicely :)
 
good talk everyone.

but so if i have the flag and i am heading back to base at 11:59, are we going to "map balance auto respawn" at 12:00 and that cap run is now null & void?

or does the rebalance wait until there is a resolution with flag or some such?
 
ya i mean i understand diff playstyles based on roster

the home d thing though, if the guy would have just stayed back and gotten maybe just a disc on the camper.. dont need to duel, do some damage to make the guy think twice about a dj home
 
[meph] still plays said:
good talk everyone.

but so if i have the flag and i am heading back to base at 11:59, are we going to "map balance auto respawn" at 12:00 and that cap run is now null & void?

or does the rebalance wait until there is a resolution with flag or some such?
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whole thing is fucking gay that is the main thing and it shuld have just been dead with that


also never chase as home d promotes the other team d'ing up with 5 ppl on a breakaway and securing every cap every time (5v4 with 5 having respawn advantage)

i did this for a long time vs chump and it basically made him quite angry with me sometimes (both when i did it vs him cuz id blow him out as lo vs chase a lot and also when he was on my team as well as we culd not be beaten even by stacked teams)

this was around when i was playing home d and stork wasnt even getting picked in pus LOL

so idk we all from different eras but there shuld be seniority levels in t1

especially with the group of ppl that organized and promoted the culture to include ppl when we were all literal children (or if u were a sperg/noob took u 10 years to get good and u got good finally as an adult)

every1 learns at different rates

just dont get fukin egos when ur opinions are clearly morally and factually bankrupt

niggas
 
ya i was never about everyone d up unless there waas like a minute left

at times i thought, in a standoff, i will return the flag.. the lo can help and maybe camp while the other capper can help escort/pass w/e

everyone spent so much time looking at ck's, which are great, but i loved it when i would have double the returns of the other teams guy when he had similar ck's
 
im just saying especially in this thread

i am king - nail in coffin of stork and opsayo asperger rage by Dare - TribalWar Forums

the metagame is pliable and abusable

treating it like an asbolutest religion is terrible. there is definitely probably an optimal way. did 16 year old kids get it absolutely 100% right and most optimal and no more evolution can be done? we must never chase as home d!!!! lol no.

more so is trying to frame things like "the metagame is rigid and terrible now but if u buy my scam product aka balanced mode the metagame will change and u can play 3d 2o on sh WHICH U NEVER COULD BEFORE PLEASE GIVE ME PRAISE!@!!!!!"

vomit.

opsayo and stork r fukin gross

this idea that balanced mode promotes more risky metagame is a double edged sword (and probably) blatant fucking lie of something that hasnt been tested long term.

u can paly any metagame u want right now balance mode will effect it but probably not in the ways advertised and probably not in a way that anyone that isnt a child that cries everytime they lose a pu that the side of the map they had wasnt fair

i remember playing with kids, and being a kid, and we still werent that fucking dumb
 
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Dare said:
this is what i know

i know ive beat u 40-6 in duels 3 maps in a row (that is like 2 hours of dueling) in 2012.
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you posted those demos yet? I don't think they exist.

I know you've been sucking snow's dick for a long time now and since he doesn't chain, you want to be cool and not chain too. It's a cliquey thing with you and that's ok.

You also struggle with problems such as me and opsayo calling you dumb back in 2011 and ever since then you've been out to prove to everyone you are better than us. but rather than proving it in-game you just spam the same shit over and over for years on TW. I've explained myself many times over and you still don't understand me so I'm done and I'll let you just keep thinking they way you do. It's clear no matter how much things are explained to you, you will still believe whatever you want. That's a rigid way of going about life.

Saying I rely on CG is the most ridiculous thing you could say about me and just proves how much you have to reach to bring me down below your level. During the 2013 Tourney, I believe it was you and sleepy that decided group chaining me was the best way to beat me, and you still lost. I don't know if it was an actual decision between to two of you or you both instinctively play that way when you want to win. I chain today because it creates a higher level of gameplay. Shitty grabs an llamas deserve to get wasted and shouldn't make it home. If you are a shitty capper, I'm not going to let you continue being a shitty capper, I will chain until you realize you can't run slow routes or make shitty grabs. I guess you and snow are crying about it now but you and snow are also notorious chainers so you can both suck one. This is some bullshit higher-than-thou thinking and only lowers PU skill levels.

Dare, the greatest mind/player in tribes, couldn't cap on Stork and a legions chaser - Fire. So he busted out his CG and whored for 2 maps while also raging at his teammates because they were losing. Sound familiar to anyone? Anyone want the demo?

If you're better than everyone else dare, prove it. Let's see it. But I know you suffer from being too scared to lose to win. Even JM5k saw this in you. So I expect more excuses and deflections while you fabricate stories about me and embellish your skills and knowledge to people who don't know any better.
 
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