that's right
i can't smoke pot without using a .45
In fact, you probably couldn't. Along the way from field to your bong, that pot was accompanied by a man with a gun
that's right
i can't smoke pot without using a .45
Sorry Chaol, I have too. Didn't this start by pointing to Chicago as a prime example of the failure of law in regards to it's effect on gun control?
Then you said because guns are too easy to get by breaking the law.
Then I said distance wouldn't matter.
Then you said there is not much discussion to be had.
I like talking to you but that isn't how it works.
It's one thing to drive 30 minutes to indiana and legally purchase a handgun for market rates, then use it towards criminal goals in chicago
It's another to find a black market arms dealer who has imported guns across the US border, then purchase it at the premium rates that such a risky venture would command. I would expect there to be many less weapons, and that their cost would be prohibitive for most criminal ventures.
It's one thing to drive 30 minutes to indiana and legally purchase a handgun for market rates, then use it towards criminal goals in chicago
It's another to find a black market arms dealer who has imported guns across the US border, then purchase it at the premium rates that such a risky venture would command. I would expect there to be many less weapons, and that their cost would be prohibitive for most criminal ventures.
You think people in Chicago smoke Mexican weed? Snort some coke from Columbia. Shoot some meth from Mexico. Enjoy some heroin from Afghanistan?
You think the same bad guys wouldn't flood the greedy market with weapons? That cost would be so prohibitive as to reduce the amount of weapons easily obtained?
That is a tad delusional I mean considering how we have no border wall or control over who walks right in.
This is a trap you know.. at some point your argument has to come around to a wall.
There would be a black market for imported illegal guns, sure. I don't think the market would be flooded, nor do I think they would be cheap.
Chaol is making bullshit arguments like most progressives and the stats do not back him up one bit...
This is why I take whatever a progressive/liberal/democrat has to say about gun control with an ounce of salt.... they live in their crime ridden cities with all the gun control laws enacted that they want and imagine the entire US is a blood bathed city like their own when the opposite is true. They ignore the reality that Laws do not stop those who live outside of societies rules and pretend that if they ink another law into effect maybe just maybe that one will convince those poor misguided fools back into societies fold..
99% of gun deaths due to pistols, but you'll never hear them want to ban anything other than rifles and we have Chaol preaching that the more guns the more death we have...
meanwhile we've had record breaking numbers of FBI NICS background checks almost yearly under Obama's tenure and somehow homicide is stagnant and gun ownership according to statistics is declining at a time when public trust in our Media and Government Institutions is low. It makes perfect sense then that people would also be weary about identifying themselves to random strangers calling them on the phone asking about their guns.
Good thing there isn't a kabillion dollars available in the drug trade
That's from the ATF handbook
It's illegal for private citizens to own post-1986 machine guns.
Just out of curiosity does that chart include suicide and accidental deaths as homicides?
private citizens...yes. but private trusts which can be created and maintained by private citizens is legal. Nothing illegal about private citizens creating a trust and that trust 'owning' the firearms.
According to the handbook, that trust would have to be approved by the federal government as an entity that is allowed to own/sell machine guns. Are you implying that any ordinary private citizens are able to create private trusts which can then be approved by the government to own machine guns?
And yes, I'm "preaching" that the more guns there are, the more deaths we have:
That is the way most private citizens come into possession of automatics legally. There are lawyers that specialize in the creation of trusts for just this purpose. Costs about $150 on average to create