I am absolutely in favor of a response for the use of chemical weapons.

Obama deciding to go build his own coalition with hookers and blackjack and then performing more political double speak would be great. I'd love to see that.
 
ICFire said:
Who you talking to that doesn't know we financed, trained and supplied them with weapons when they were fighting Russia?
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You'd be surprised how many peeps do not know.

cogzinofa said:
Obama deciding to go build his own coalition with hookers and blackjack and then performing more political double speak would be great. I'd love to see that.
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Obama isn't the U.S. He's a politician. The U.S. populous doesn't want this war any more than the rest of the international community.
 
US politicians are like steve jobs. it's their opinion that the american public doesn't know what it wants and it's their job to tell the american public what it wants.
 


Must see video if you have the time to watch it. Stefan completely annihilates the arguments of the warmongers/MIC lobbyists and braindead neocon-progressives like ICFire.
 
I am in favor of Syria solving Syria's problems. they're not Russia. they're nit Germany in wwII. they're a small insignificant country that only matters because it's close to a lot of countries that matter. it's time for them to solve their own problems and it's time for Israel to wag it's own fucking dog.
 
Scud411 said:
isn't al qaeda really just a general term for some kind of resistance (probably to the west specifically though).
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The Power of Nightmares - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [Curtis:BBC:2004]

Part 3: "The Shadows in the Cave"

The final episode addresses the actual rise of al-Qaeda. Curtis argues that, after their failed revolutions, bin Laden and Zawahiri had little or no popular support, let alone a serious complex organisation of terrorists, and were dependent upon independent operatives to carry out their new call for jihad. However, the film argues that in order to prosecute bin Laden in absentia for the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings, US prosecutors had to prove he was the head of a criminal organisation responsible for the bombings. They find a former associate of bin Laden, Jamal al-Fadl, and pay him to testify that bin Laden was the head of a massive terrorist organisation called "al-Qaeda". With the 11 September attacks, Neo-Conservatives in the new Republican government of George W. Bush use this created concept of an organisation to justify another crusade against a new evil enemy, leading to the launch of the War on Terrorism.

After the American invasion of Afghanistan fails to uproot the alleged terrorist network, the Neo-Conservatives focus inwards, searching unsuccessfully for terrorist sleeper cells in America. They then extend the war on "terror" to a war against general perceived evils with the invasion of Iraq in 2003. The ideas and tactics also spread to the United Kingdom where Tony Blair uses the threat of terrorism to give him a new moral authority. The repercussions of the Neo-Conservative strategy are also explored with an investigation of indefinitely-detained terrorist suspects in Guantanamo Bay, many allegedly taken on the word of the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance without actual investigation on the part of the United States military, and other forms of "preemption" against non-existent and unlikely threats made simply on the grounds that the parties involved could later become a threat. Curtis also makes a specific attempt to allay fears of a dirty bomb attack, and concludes by reassuring viewers that politicians will eventually have to concede that some threats are exaggerated and others altogether devoid of reality. "In an age when all the grand ideas have lost credibility, fear of a phantom enemy is all the politicians have left to maintain their power."
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C.I.A. No Al-qaeda Ever Existed - BBC Documentary The Power Of Nightmares [Video]
 
cogzinofa said:
ngfm get on this shit.
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I did back on page 7. I just want the cliff notes on who is doing this. It's not Obama or Kerry. Everyone is in their face saying the people don't want this (70% by current polls), but they respond like a robot saying we need to do it.

Bush went to Iraq, over stayed, said, "Mission Accomplished", and lost it for the right. The problem is once we are there, it never ends. People are tired of kingdom building, because it's always the wrong side.
 
I think it's high time for the rest of the world to impose a complete blockade on the United States. You fucking people need to die as soon as possible, and take your jewish overlords with you.
 
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