Give me one good reaosn to be a theist please.
One good reason to be an Atheist: You have never directly experienced God.
One good reason to be a Theist: You have directly experienced God.
Ok, so tell me what your "spirit in the cage" is, then provide me with hard evidence for its existence.
"religious discussion is mostly a waste of time." -My opening argument
You are asking me to engage in religious discussion with you, which is identical to asking me to waste my time.
If some random person on the internet asked you to waste your own time, would you abide? You would not. Therefore you cannot expect any different result from others.
One could demonstrate by means of monitoring brainwaves and/or hormone levels when exposed to my family, or observing how my behaviour with them differs from that with strangers. That would already be more hard evidence than I've seen for any god.
Is that what love is? A "brainwave" or a "hormone"? What is the unit of measurement for love?
Yes, you can measure "brainwaves" and "hormones", but that does not prove that love exists, nor that it can be measured.
If you can prove the existence of love and measure it, than you will win a nobel prize.
You do not have a nobel prize, because you can not prove the existence of love, nor will you ever.
There are things in this reality that cannot be measured by science.
Hello god of the gaps. This argument has a terrible history of becoming less and less relevant as human knowledge expands, and every time we actually found an explanation for something, it was never one posited by any religion.
You have an interesting way of consistently arguing against someone that is not in the room. This is another big reason why I do not engage in religious discussion with most people. Most people look for these sorts of talking points, because they know how to address them. It is another indication of the "I need to win" mentality.
I'm not discussing gap theory. I'm discussing the woeful inadequacy of human scientific advancement.
If you think we are hyper advanced in terms of scientific advancement, than feel free to explain to me why we can't even leave this rock called Earth.
Archeological digs are not evidence of a god's existence.
Archeological digs are evidence of the historical accuracy of religious texts.
So that you don't look like someone who makes shit up and tries to act smug about being challenged on it.
There is no change of heart. With every post where you avoid exposing your beliefs to critical review, you're continuing your surrender. Again, anyone can make up a false claim and act like the world just doesn't get it, or that they're too noble to explain it to the plebs. Right now, you look like one of those people, and it's entirely your own fault.
It wasn't a dismissal, it was a prediction. One that you willingly continue to fulfill.
It would be super easy for you to demonstrate that you are not, in fact, intellectually dishonest, if that really was the case. All you'd need to do is start telling us what you believe and why.
I do not care if I look smug or whatever. You are welcome to label me however you please. You have already labeled me aggressively from the get go without even hearing what I believe, so... anyone would draw the conclusion that taking the discussion further would yield more distasteful negativity.
It doesn't take psychic powers to read someone opening their entire argument with "religious discussion is a waste of time" and guess that they will not engage in religious discussion with you. Should you be applauded for your accurate prediction that even a child with any form of reading level could have made?
The fact that I will not engage only proves that I was sincere in my stance, not the opposite.
You will continue to push the "see, the guy that says that religious discussion is a waste of time is not engaging in religious discussion, therefore he is an insincere smug turd making stuff up" when it is quite the opposite. I am being consistent in my stance.
You are right, it would be super easy for me to engage in worldview discussion, I'm great at it... What a wonderful free country where I get to personally screen and select who I engage with.
If I have already given you my "ultimate surrender" and you have achieved a mighty victory over me, why are you still engaging with me?
If you think by repeatedly baiting me and threatening me with ill-repute that you will succeed in getting me to chomp on the bit of religious discussion, you are mistaken...
...it is a waste of time, as I said.
That being said, the discussion about how religious discussion is a waste of time has been highly entertaining for me, so I appreciate you engaging with me.