logan best xmen movie of all time

don't forget the lead kid was rictor, one of the only openly gay marvel characters

total coincidence that they made sure you knew his name tho
 
C6dCd1TU8AIiMuH.jpg
 
Just saw the movie. Ignoring all the issues with the movie, I couldn't figure out what Logan's original end-goal was?

 He kept talking about taking Xavier out on a boat (the "Sunseeker"). At first I thought it was to protect people from his seizures but, what about his meds? Was Logan planning on making enough money as a fisherman to keep paying for them?

The only alternative I can think of is he wanted to take Xavier on one last trip before killing him and then himself (with that Adamantium bullet). Sad ending either way. :( 
 
I enjoyed watching Logan as a dumb action movie, but it was so formulaic and predictable that I find it very difficult to understand why it's reviewed so well

Best x men movie ever is a pretty low fuckin bar so i guess I am OK with it having that accolade...but it was a seriously unoriginal/uninspired story imo

I dig Steve Merchant as Caliban tho
 
I enjoyed watching Logan as a dumb action movie, but it was so formulaic and predictable that I find it very difficult to understand why it's reviewed so well

Best x men movie ever is a pretty low fuckin bar so i guess I am OK with it having that accolade...but it was a seriously unoriginal/uninspired story imo

I dig Steve Merchant as Caliban tho

the movie universe is one where virtually everything is formulaic and predictable(especially anything with a production budget north of 80m), so i dont think thats a worthwhile criticism right now

and simply put, it's not a dumb action movie. john wick is a dumb (but great) action movie. x men apocalypse is a dumb (and bad) action movie. dumb action movies are filled with soul-less characters that no one gives a shit about

logan succeeds where hell or high water succeeds, same as hacksaw ridge and mad max to an extent. it's not where the movie goes, it's how it gets there. u dont walk into a marvel movie and expect memento, and you don't walk into la la land and expect deadpool. logan was intended and expected to hit specific notes and melodies. it hits them all, and it hits them in a way that works. if you didn't feel any empathy or sympathy for the professor and logan then the movie would fail and i can'ts ee how the vast majority of every movie ever made wouldn't fail for you as well
 
Last edited:
Wasn't a huge fan of this. Really surprised because I went in hearing everyone praising it. The first big fight scene in the desert was really cool, but slowly went downhill from there.

 the clone wolverine was the biggest letdown. I really hate doppleganger antagonists, but they still could have somehow made a clone more interesting. Slightly different powers, appearance, interesting dialogue, I dunno anything would have been better than a clone with a haircut who fought just like the original. the other villains were nameless soliders (cannon fodder), a corporate scientist guy with no character, and a bounty hunter with a robot hand. the bounty hunter was close to being a good character but still ended up being pretty generic. 
 
Wasn't a huge fan of this. Really surprised because I went in hearing everyone praising it. The first big fight scene in the desert was really cool, but slowly went downhill from there.

 the clone wolverine was the biggest letdown. I really hate doppleganger antagonists, but they still could have somehow made a clone more interesting. Slightly different powers, appearance, interesting dialogue, I dunno anything would have been better than a clone with a haircut who fought just like the original. the other villains were nameless soliders (cannon fodder), a corporate scientist guy with no character, and a bounty hunter with a robot hand. the bounty hunter was close to being a good character but still ended up being pretty generic. 

yeah that's a fair criticism
 
SPOILERS: (Since it's been out for a while)

I really enjoyed myself. I don't watch a lot of movies anymore and this movie was fun and held my attention the whole way through.

I really did enjoy the Wolverine clone. Also, I think I might know the inspiration for him. They show the old movie Shane in the hotel. There was a pretty cool Kurt Russel movie in the late 90s called Soldier that no one watched, but it was a sci-fi retelling of shane and in the beginning of that the main character fights another soldier like him, but he's supposed to be superior and more of a drone. Same thing was seen in this movie.

The scientist bad guy was boring. The cyborg hand guy really had a presence but boring writing. He was a good character that just was not used well at all.

I really did enjoy the surprise Wolverine clone. I don't think he was shown in the trailer, and the way they had the intro was a rare time I've been surprised in a movie. They said they were making better mutants than the kids, but I did not imagine it being a clone. It was a nice twist and the action scenes between them were AMAZING!

I have a few questions:

-Who was the albino mutant?

-What was making Wolverine sick? Was that ever explained?
 
I think my friends who are decent into comics told me that it was his adamantium slowly killing him. Like it made him stronger, but he was far superior in healing and speed without it. Like he's constantly in a steady heal state or some shit since it's in his body or something. Which is why the older he got the more damage he got didn't heal all the way, I dunno. :shrug:
 
calaban was albino mutant aka stephen merchant, comedy dude

apparently he helped find mutants for the government so they could kill them years before this takes place
and xavier killed a bunch of mutants somehow also?
 
I think my friends who are decent into comics told me that it was his adamantium slowly killing him. Like it made him stronger, but he was far superior in healing and speed without it. Like he's constantly in a steady heal state or some shit since it's in his body or something. Which is why the older he got the more damage he got didn't heal all the way, I dunno. :shrug:

Yeah they basically say that in the movie, repeatedly saying something inside him is poisoning him and at one point he says he knows whats wrong with him.

calaban was albino mutant aka stephen merchant, comedy dude

apparently he helped find mutants for the government so they could kill them years before this takes place
and xavier killed a bunch of mutants somehow also?

Yeah that seemed clearly laid out. calaban was working with the corporation/govt to hunt mutants. they never touched on why, or why he changed his mind. and yeah seems like xavier had one of his seizures and accidently hurt a bunch of people. I think they said it happened at his school. They gave that info in a background news broadcast or something in the movie. Probably the reason they smuggled him to mexico and locked him up.

I'm confused on the timeline. Is there any continuity with the other movies right now, or is this basically just a one off story? Are we going to have to have another time travel movie to avert this timeline where mutants are successfully hunted to extinction and mutant births are prevented via food? Is this the same timeline as X-men apocalypse?

Normally I wouldn't care, but they go through all the trouble to have all these connected stories and characters, seems kind of anti-climactic to show the future where mutants lost. I guess there is talk of Cable in an upcoming movie so maybe there will be more time travel...
 
Back
Top