[NEW OFFICE PC] New office computer build

Mantua said:
what's wrong with seagate drives? i've got 2 for my laptop that work just fine :shrug:
one is 2-3 years old, the other is about a year old
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Seagate used to be very solid then they fell off for a while. Not sure where they stand now. Western Digital oddly enough seems to be doing pretty good for itself these days.
 
Mantua said:
what's wrong with seagate drives? i've got 2 for my laptop that work just fine :shrug:
one is 2-3 years old, the other is about a year old
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Bad experiences over the last couple iterations of drives. The 7200.11 drives were notorious for having bad firmware that caused the drives to first start failing to read data, then outright die on you. It took Seagate forever to release updated firmware to fix the issue.

The 7200.12 drives have a similar problem. I recently had to deal with a batch of 2000 of these drives. About 20% of them were exhibiting an issue where they randomly stop reading data (freezing the computer) then go unrecognizable in the BIOS until the system is manually powered off and back on. Seagate does not yet have an official firmware update to resolve this issue. We got a firmware update from Seagate days ago which will hopefully resolve it, but that firmware is not yet officially available and has not yet 100% proven to resolve the issues we've been experiencing yet.
 
for your uses, one of these would be perfect :sunny:

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Lamb said:
i have some "perpendicular" 320gb SATA seagate, am i fucked krustyy?
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Nah. The firmware troubles didn't start happening until 500GB+ drives.

Just in case, I'd still suggest going to the seagate web site and getting the latest firmware. They have a utility that'll detect your drive, download the firmware, and apply it for you.
 
D said:
"Office pc", lol.
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okay, office computer...

krustyy,


do you really think it's prudent to go with a brand new chipset for an office computer that I need to be stable and reliable??
like... the mobo you posted has no reviews, how do I know it's a quality product if the chip is only 2 weeks on the market?

also the case/psu you posted is reviewed as having confirmed static issues
 
Hit said:
okay, office computer...

krustyy,


do you really think it's prudent to go with a brand new chipset for an office computer that I need to be stable and reliable??
like... the mobo you posted has no reviews, how do I know it's a quality product if the chip is only 2 weeks on the market?

also the case/psu you posted is reviewed as having confirmed static issues
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The motherboard is made by Intel. I'd say they're trustworthy. The brands I've been sticking with lately are Asus, Gigabyte, and Intel. You'll probably be fine. As for the chip selection, I also wouldn't worry about it. The last time Intel released a retail chip with any kind of issues were back in like the Pentium 1 days. While the product has only been on the market for a few weeks, it's been out for testing among the general population for some time now. I haven't got my hands on one yet, but I have a few arriving next week for testing. As the other reviews are indicating, I'm expecting it to be a great performer for a very decent price.

As for the case, I've dealt with thousands of them. They're fine. The entire thing is made of steel, which means your computer will be enclosed in one giant Faraday cage. Whoever says the thing has static issues doesn't understand basic Physics.

I have my own list of complaints about the case, but none of them really outweigh the fact that you get a decent quality PSU with a decent quality case at a low price.
 
As a business specialist, let me be completely honest.

Buy either an iMac run Bootcamp and load XP/Vista/7 if you don't want to have to keep wondering if that crash was because of hardware. If someone in the office (or knows someone) who is doing tertiary study, you can buy with an education discount which brings it in line with PC prices.

or

Buy a Dell Optiplex with 3 year NBD warranty for pure reliability. I have sold thousands of Dells from Vostro shitboxes through to some high end storage servers, and the number of issues I see compared to when I built whiteboxes is pehnomenal. 1 of every 10 or so whiteboxes would have at least one minor hardware issue (RAM/DVD/HDD etc) which is simple to fix, while one in every 50 or so would have a major recurring issue much harder to find. Of the Dells I have sold (perhaps 4000 or so) I have had only one issue that Dell had to replace the whole PC for (to keep cost of repair down) and perhaps 10 or so issues where a hard drive failed or ram failed.

Building an AMD for an office PC is a fucking retarded move all round.
 
Kiint said:
As a business specialist, let me be completely honest.

Buy either an iMac run Bootcamp and load XP/Vista/7 if you don't want to have to keep wondering if that crash was because of hardware. If someone in the office (or knows someone) who is doing tertiary study, you can buy with an education discount which brings it in line with PC prices.

or

Buy a Dell Optiplex with 3 year NBD warranty for pure reliability. I have sold thousands of Dells from Vostro shitboxes through to some high end storage servers, and the number of issues I see compared to when I built whiteboxes is pehnomenal. 1 of every 10 or so whiteboxes would have at least one minor hardware issue (RAM/DVD/HDD etc) which is simple to fix, while one in every 50 or so would have a major recurring issue much harder to find. Of the Dells I have sold (perhaps 4000 or so) I have had only one issue that Dell had to replace the whole PC for (to keep cost of repair down) and perhaps 10 or so issues where a hard drive failed or ram failed.

Building an AMD for an office PC is a fucking retarded move all round.
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Why? In my experience I've had dells die on me plenty of times. Never once have I had an issue with an AMD machine that I've put together.
 
based on krustyy's advise, i put together an intel build.. what do you think? :>

CPU: Intel Core i5 750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor - Retail $199.99*

Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-P55-UD3R LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $139.99*

Memory: CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX4GX3M2A1600C9 99.99* -$20 rebate

HD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive 64.99*

Video Card: GIGABYTE GV-R435OC-512I Radeon HD 4350 512MB 64-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Low Profile Ready Video Card - Retail $34.99 -$15 rebate

Case: Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $54.95*

Power supply: OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ600MXSP 600W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC 79.99* - 10% - $25 rebate

DVD LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW SATA CD/DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM 28.99

$695.92 total price - $60 in rebates works out to be about $650 shipped for the machine.
What do you think, better then the first one?? I think if there aren't any problems with the build i'll buy it tonight!
 
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