[Mega] MAGA Super Trump Mega Thread

phaytal said:
The Saudi regime killed, dismembered, and dissolved a journalist's body parts in acid because he was critical of Donald Trump.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45812399

Who was Jamal Khashoggi?

As a prominent journalist, he covered major stories including the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and the rise of Osama Bin Laden for various Saudi news organisations.

For decades, he was close to the Saudi royal family and also served as an adviser to the government.

But he fell out of favour and went into self-imposed exile in the US last year. From there, he wrote a monthly column in the Washington Post in which he criticised the policies of Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.

Who was Jamal Khashoggi?

In his first column for the newspaper, Khashoggi said he feared being arrested in an apparent crackdown on dissent overseen by the prince since he became first in line to succeed his father King Salman.

"The people being arrested are not even being dissidents, they just have an independent mind," he told the BBC's Newshour programme three days before he disappeared.
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Funny, BBC doesn't seem to agree that he said anything against Trump...lying fucking brits...

Phaytal, you really need to stop being an NPC man
 
Animo said:
Hey guys, What’s the latest political troll?
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A Saudi journalist wrote an article in the past that was negative towards Trump so Trump called SA and they tortured and dismembered the journalist for Trump.

Just another day in la-la-land.
 
donald trump supports SA due to understanding this is sandpeople being sandpeople in sandpeople territory

oil prices drops immediately

thanks POTUS for having a calm head and not going world police when the majority of the countries calling for action won't even meet the agreed upon NATO spending levels to ensure readiness among its memberstates, also potentially sparing us from shouldering YET ANOTHER burden both politically and possibly from our young people while they try to scoop the rewards. Good example of his America First policy providing dividends.

of course tho trump is still crazy for not committing the kneejerk reaction they wanted

the funny thing is the rest of the world will still partially reap the rewards while the politicians call him a coward while taking credit for these oil prices keeping econo
 
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White House Authorizes Lethal Force At The Border

resident Trump's chief of staff John Kelly signed a memo late Tuesday allowing troops stationed at the border to act in a law enforcement capacity and use lethal force, if necessary, according to Tara Copp of Military Times.


The new “Cabinet order” was signed by White House Chief of Staff John Kelly, not President Donald Trump. It allows “Department of Defense military personnel” to “perform those military protective activities that the Secretary of Defense determines are reasonably necessary” to protect border agents, including “a show or use of force (including lethal force, where necessary), crowd control, temporary detention. and cursory search.”

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Kelly said in the signed directive that the additional authorities were necessary because “credible evidence and intelligence” have indicated that the thousands of migrants who have now made their way to the U.S. checkpoint near Tijuana, Mexico, “may prompt incidents of violence and disorder” that could threaten border officials. -Military Times
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The Trump administration's move may raise concerns over the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act, which prohibits the use of federal military personnel to enforce domestic policies within the United States.
Some of those activities, including crowd control and detention, may run into potential conflict with the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act. If crossed, the erosion of the act’s limitations could represent a fundamental shift in the way the U.S. military is used, legal experts said.

The Congressional Research Service, the non-partisan research agency for Congress, has found that “case law indicates that ‘execution of the law’ in violation of the Posse Comitatus Act occurs (a) when the Armed Forces perform tasks assigned to an organ of civil government, or (b) when the Armed Forces perform tasks assigned to them solely for purposes of civilian government.” However, the law also allows the president “to use military force to suppress insurrection or to enforce federal authority,” CRS has found. -Military Times​

That said, US military forces always have the inherent right to self defense. Moreover, troops have been given a wider scope of authority in recent years to assist border agents with various actions such as drug interdictions.

According to Military Times, defense officials say that hte language in the new directive was "carefully crafted to avoid running up against the bedrock legal limitations set in Posse Comitatus." That said, "Even [an executive order] couldn’t overcome Posse Comitatus," says Willaim Banks, author of "Soldiers on the Home Front: The Domestic Role of the American Military” and the former director of the Institute for National Security and Counter-terrorism at Syracuse University’s College of Law.

The new report appears to contradict a story from Tuesday in the Los Angeles Times that the Trump administration would begin withdrawing the troops. In fact, it appears that the pulled troops would primarily consist of engineering units which have finished their task of installing razor wire and physical obstacles at border crossing points - while the original scope of the mission had authorized a deployment until December 15, unless the Department of Homeland Security requested an extension.
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I trip out when I hear people say that it is illegal for the US Military to protect its own nation's borders from an invasion. This is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard about our 'Living Constitution'.

"Hey, China. Did you know that you can move 1,000,000 troops into Mexico and invade our nation and the only resistance will be from the border patrol because it's illegal for the worlds greatest military to protect its own border?"

SECTION 4. The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.
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dealing with the saudis is like being married to Donald Trump

yeah, they suck. yeah they are annoying headcases

But you only really have to deal directly with his bullshit once or twice a year. And between those times you shit on a golden plated toilet seat.

I understand someone like phatal not liking them, but what president would ever try to punish them? You can’t. You may want to. But you can’t. No president would.
 
Got Haggis? said:
trump says its ok to murder people if you have lots of money

fuck trump
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I assume your next reply will be fuck Turkey

World Report 2018: Turkey | Human Rights Watch


Freedom of Expression, Association, and Assembly

The prosecution and jailing of journalists for doing their work continued after the closing of media outlets since the coup attempt. Turkey is the world leader in jailing journalists and media workers as they face criminal investigations and trials, with around 150 behind bars at time of writing. Most newspapers and television channels lack independence and promote the government’s political line.

Several major, politically motivated trials of journalists on terrorism-related charges began in 2017. The evidence consisted of writing and reporting, which did not advocate violence, alongside unsupported allegations of connections with terrorist organizations or involvement in the coup attempt. That trials continued despite the lack of credible evidence to substantiate the charges demonstrated lack of judicial independence.

At the first trial hearing in March of a group of journalists accused of FETÖ membership, the court decided to release on bail 21 defendants who had been held in prolonged pretrial detention. However, following criticism of the decision by a pro-government journalist, there was an appeal against the release of eight of the 21, and a new investigation against the other 13. As a result, none were released from detention. The High Council of Judges and Prosecutors subsequently suspended the three judges who had ruled to release the journalists, plus the prosecutor at the hearing.

The trial of 19 journalists, board members and other personnel from the Cumhuriyet newspaper on charges of FETÖ links began on July 24. Well-known reporter Ahmet Şık is among five defendants still in prolonged pretrial detention.

In a separate case concerning Cumhuriyet reporting on Turkish intelligence services supplying arms to Syrian opposition groups, an Istanbul court in June sentenced Enis Berberoğlu, member of parliament for the opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP), to 25 years’ imprisonment for providing video of the weapons to the newspaper. He remained in prison at time of writing, although a court of appeal overturned his conviction and ordered a retrial. Proceedings against Cumhuriyet Ankara bureau chief Erdem Gül and former editor Can Dündar on related allegations continued.

The trial of 31 Zaman newspaper journalists and media workers on coup attempt charges began in September, a full 14 months after many of the defendants were remanded to pretrial detention. They face life imprisonment if convicted for writings that did not advocate violence.

During 2017, Kurdish journalists were prosecuted and detained on charges of links with the armed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) over their reporting. Dozens of journalists and public figures who participated in a solidarity campaign with the now closed pro-Kurdish Özgür Gündem newspaper were prosecuted for terrorist propaganda. While most received suspended sentences and fines, in May an Istanbul court sentenced Murat Çelikkan, a journalist and human rights defender, to 18 months’ imprisonment. He was released after two months.

The blocking of websites and removal of online content continued, with an April court order upholding the request by the state Information and Communication Technologies Authority to block the entire Wikipedia website. Turkey made 45 percent of global requests to Twitter to remove online content in the first six months of 2017.

Authorities frequently imposed arbitrary bans on public assemblies and violently dispersed peaceful demonstrations.

Nuriye Gülmen and Semih Özakça, an academic and teacher respectively, dismissed under the state of emergency, were repeatedly detained and released by police as they carried out a sit-in, and later hunger strike in Ankara to demand reinstatement. In May, a court remanded them to prison pending trial charged with terrorist membership. Özakça was released in October and Gülmen in December. In advance of their first trial hearing in September, 16 lawyers representing them were detained and 14 subsequently remanded to prison. In November, their lead defense lawyer Selçuk Kozağaçlı, head of the shuttered Contemporary Lawyers Association, was also arrested.

Under the state of emergency in Turkey over 500 lawyers have been jailed pending trial, and over 1,000 prosecuted. Most lawyers facing prosecution are accused of alleged FETÖ links.

For a third year, the Istanbul governor’s office banned the annual Istanbul Gay and Trans Pride marches in June 2017, citing concerns about security threats and public order.
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Got Haggis? said:
trump says its ok to murder people if you have lots of money

fuck trump
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This line of reasoning confuses me. Are you suggesting that the President has authority over another sovereign nation? Do you believe that the United States should cease any relationship with a nation that has ordered the killing of one of it's own citizens? How many nations do you believe are innocent of such things?
 
Why are they not screaming about 150 journalist is Turkey prisons? Does this expose their true motivations?

YES

I have been waiting to use this source and stats btw.. not one of those stupid fucks bitching about this dead guy bothered to look at the country they are supporting
 
Pagy said:
dealing with the saudis is like being married to Donald Trump

yeah, they suck. yeah they are annoying headcases

But you only really have to deal directly with his bullshit once or twice a year. And between those times you shit on a golden plated toilet seat.

I understand someone like phatal not liking them, but what president would ever try to punish them? You can’t. You may want to. But you can’t. No president would.
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In 90s and bush era we couldnt we can now. We produce more oil than they do. We should for sure be muscling them more.

The only real worry is that they end up as an ally to china or russia. Jared Kushner is jewish and he is pressing hard for them because saudi arabia is ally with us and isreal. Thats why i keep saying punt Jared/Soros and start muscling saudia arabia more, we have the best military in the world. It should be behave or you wont be king anymore.
 
KittyCat said:
In 90s and bush era we couldnt we can now. We produce more oil than they do. We should for sure be muscling them more.

The only real worry is that they end up as an ally to china or russia. Jared Kushner is jewish and he is pressing hard for them because saudi arabia is ally with us and isreal. Thats why i keep saying punt Jared/Soros and start muscling saudia arabia more, we have the best military in the world. It should be behave or you wont be king anymore.
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This whole shit show is the product of America attempting to control a region and people that are better off being killed than to waste any effort ushering them into the current century.

We know exactly what we got in the Saudis but that is every inch better than Iran and the fact is we have made progress with them and human rights have expanded, slightly.. fact.

Still shitty policy imho but here we are.
 
Well you have bush to thank for that i never supported removing saddam because at least it was organized chaos and there were no terrorists or crazy religions wars. Afghanistan wasnt worth our time.

Those were stupid wars. I wouldnt mind pressuring the saudis more indirectly though.
 
KittyCat said:
Well you have bush to thank for that i never supported removing saddam because at least it was organized chaos and there were no terrorists or crazy religions wars. Afghanistan wasnt worth our time.

Those were stupid wars. I wouldnt mind pressuring the saudis more indirectly though.
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I agree there 100% Saddam, for as bad as he was, knew how to control those freaks.

We removed our only real control point
 
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