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SuperTrap said:
That's further right than the right. I mean, that's like way fucking to the right.
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Uh, No.

What do those all have in common? The State and 'progressivism'. Dont be played for a chump.

I wrestle with with the idea of supporting the death penalty, I also have a problem with the State controlling who lives and dies. At the end of the day, I support limited forms of it but at the same time, a more ruthless version where it's very public... in front of kids. Anyway, historically speaking, statists love them some murders -about 100 million of them in the name of the State.

Forced sterilization? Margaret Sanger. Look that bitch up, a 'progressive'.
Here: Margaret Sanger - Wikipedia

State control of the media? Ha, he even gives it away with doing away with capitalism. Hello Ministry of Truth. I'm with the gvt and I am here to tell you what to think.

He has no right wing views, he is a statist. Right wing views tend to side more along religious moral views, not statist.

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-SS- said:
I wrestle with with the idea of supporting the death penalty
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Is there a case, even a hypothetical one, where you don't think the death penalty is appropriate?

I do not mean this pejoratively, but you seem like a guy that would recommend the death penalty for an overdue library book.
 
Vanster said:
Is there a case, even a hypothetical one, where you don't think the death penalty is appropriate?

I do not mean this pejoratively, but you seem like a guy that would recommend the death penalty for an overdue library book.
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:lol: Of course you dont.

I think of you as a loser asshole who thinks he is somehow better than others with the cred to back it up. Your cockholster writes checks your ass cant cash.

You have developed into a runner and that's it. Good for you. Now when are you going to work on being a better human being?

Anyway, it's not about the death penalty itself, it's about who is actually in charge of it and how it's legally applied ie, what was the crime? I'm disappointed you didn't grasp that.

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crime = caught on camera being a shitty human being

punishment = summary execution

The Inquisition will show you no mercy, sinner
 
coombz said:
I'm down with the death penalty - not how it is enacted currently, but a harsher, faster deterrent for scum people who get caught red handed breaking the law

I would support sterilization of scum people, or at least placing a lot more barriers/requirements in front of people before they are granted a license to breed
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Maybe you could set up some dedicated prisons (or some other facility) to deal with them? maybe save some costs by doing it all in big batches, just round up all of them into the one room and gas it. For reference: most studies that have looked into the thing say that the death penalty isn't actually a deterrent. People committing crimes aren't thinking about the likely punishments if they get caught. They're running under the assumption they won't get caught in the first place, so it's not a significant factor. The biggest psychological effect is on the wider community, satisfying either a thirst for vengeance or the thought that an undesirable has been 'removed'.

not sure if this is left or right, but I want to see the media muzzled somehow and forced to report news instead of sensationalist garbage solely to maximize profits
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That's neither left nor right in itself, just totalitarian. You're basically advocating state control of the media.

Oh, I don't believe trans people or other dumb shit 'conditions' should be supported/paid for by public money
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Here you're arguing with a relative scale of what warrants community support and what doesn't, and since that's different for every single person on the planet, it's probably nothing to get too hung up on. I don't think sexuality in itself is grounds for welfare support anywhere, but if there are genuine hardships encountered because of it, I think there's a case to be made for rectifying what's causing the problem.

I'm sure I'm too much of a bleeding heart to fit in with the tw right wing dudes, and I'm fine with that because with a few exceptions you're all Mongolia lvl intelligence imo. But I don't fit in with real liberals, they think I'm an evil bastard :shrug:
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Not fitting in with the right-wing here is fine, there's probably a few folks that were members of the Hitler Youth that'd look at some of that shit and say "Dude, not cool!" (or.. that in German), and turning the death penalty into some sort of torture porn is probably not the most liberal ideology around, so gasp and shock: you're probably somewhere right of "the center".. wherever the hell that is this week.
 
MC Hamster said:
For reference: most studies that have looked into the thing say that the death penalty isn't actually a deterrent.
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oh I'm aware of that, but it certainly deters that person from doing a similar thing again :bigthumb:

MC Hamster said:
That's neither left nor right in itself, just totalitarian. You're basically advocating state control of the media.
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I think your allusion to totalitarian 'control' is not what I'm talking about at all. I don't want the media to be the govt mouthpiece :ftard: I'm referring to irresponsible/manipulative media coverage causing damage to society so they can make $$$. Fine them, shut them down, whatever. Do something, it's getting worse all the time...

even from way over here in NZ it seems obvious to me that sensationalist reporting played a huge part in causing all the BLM unrest, rioting and damage...the media played the blix, got them all ragey, and sat back to enjoy all the sweet sweet coverage and cash. Seems like there should be some oversight of that kind of thing to me :shrug:

MC Hamster said:
Not fitting in with the right-wing here is fine, there's probably a few folks that were members of the Hitler Youth that'd look at some of that shit and say "Dude, not cool!" (or.. that in German), and turning the death penalty into some sort of torture porn is probably not the most liberal ideology around, so gasp and shock: you're probably somewhere right of "the center".. wherever the hell that is this week.
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-SS- said:
:lol: Of course you dont.

I think of you as a loser asshole who thinks he is somehow better than others with the cred to back it up. Your cockholster writes checks your ass cant cash.

You have developed into a runner and that's it. Good for you. Now when are you going to work on being a better human being?

Anyway, it's not about the death penalty itself, it's about who is actually in charge of it and how it's legally applied ie, what was the crime? I'm disappointed you didn't grasp that.

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well that wasn't very nice
 
pff relax, everything is going to be fine.

In normal times, the idea that U.S. officials entrusted with our most sensitive secrets would selectively disclose them to undermine the White House would alarm those worried about creeping authoritarianism. Imagine if intercepts of a call between Obama's incoming national security adviser and Iran's foreign minister leaked to the press before the nuclear negotiations began? The howls of indignation would be deafening.

In the end, it was Trump's decision to cut Flynn loose. In doing this he caved in to his political and bureaucratic opposition. Nunes told me Monday night that this will not end well. "First it's Flynn, next it will be Kellyanne Conway, then it will be Steve Bannon, then it will be Reince Priebus," he said. Put another way, Flynn is only the appetizer. Trump is the entree.
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coombz said:
I think your allusion to totalitarian 'control' is not what I'm talking about at all. I don't want the media to be the govt mouthpiece :ftard: I'm referring to irresponsible/manipulative media coverage causing damage to society so they can make $$$. Fine them, shut them down, whatever. Do something, it's getting worse all the time...
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Well... yes and no. I understand you don't want a "Pravda" government-run news agancy, but if you're talking about punishing a commercial entity for reporting "the wrong news", then that's basically saying that the government gets to say what's right and wrong, and with the example of Trumps "fake news" crap fresh in everyone's minds, it should be fairly obvious that's fraught with problems.
 
coombz said:
even from way over here in NZ it seems obvious to me that sensationalist reporting played a huge part in causing all the BLM unrest, rioting and damage...the media played the blix, got them all ragey, and sat back to enjoy all the sweet sweet coverage and cash. Seems like there should be some oversight of that kind of thing to me :shrug:

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Oversight?

Obama led the way.. the media followed. The left threw their support behind those very groups. After office, Obama chimed in again saying good job protesters, keep it up.

The media is guilty but of a different crime than the Dems.
 
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