We were ahead of our time when it came to out of the box thinking

if an airplane is sitting on a frictionless runway (brakes off, let's say it's a treadmill) and the wind blows on its nose at, say, takeoff speed, does the plane fly

yes
backwards for a bit before it flipps on its back from 300 mph head winds

my turn
the plane is flying and instruments show 100 mph
but you have a strong 20mph tail wind
how fast are you traveling
 
yeah, you're totally right, the wheels wouldn't spin at twice the normal speed of landing on the ground when landing on a treadmill at all, it would just dead stop the plane in place. u should be a physicist, bro.

its pretty simple physics what happens when the air stops flowing over the planes wing
 
@SeVeReD if you put your bike on a moving treadmill, and you hold the bike by the handlebars but stand on the side of the treadmill ... what do you reckon the bike would do when you started walking forward?
 
yes
backwards for a bit before it flipps on its back from 300 mph head winds

my turn
the plane is flying and instruments show 100 mph
but you have a strong 20mph tail wind
how fast are you traveling
air speed 100
ground speed 120
 
"The purpose of the propeller is to provide a method of propulsion so the aircraft is able to move forward through the air. " Which it is doing when rolling on the ground or playing on a treadmill.
Think of the belt like a headwind then.
The plane is going 100 mph with a headwind of 100 mph
you ain't moving forward
 
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