They don't count as scientific evidence, but line up a million eye witnesses in a court of law and I guarantee you get past reasonable doubt. By your reason ideas don't exist. You can't discuss abstract concepts like morality or transcendentalism with scientific method that's just stupid, but those things exist.
Science isn't the be all end all you think it is.
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Way to be just as closed minded as the religious right.
Hmmmm touche. You are right, i didnt catch you were part of that other fellows conversation.
Discussion of Metaphysics is nothing more then a masturbation session of those who cannot handle the truth. Yeah, that's right bitch I went there
People who say that metaphysics is worthless are making a value judgment and while it may be true for them it most certainly is not for many others. However if metaphysics is worthless to you why do you insist on discussing metaphysical subjects? Apparently it's at least worth the argument.
There's something funny here...k we're past page 20... its officially time to end this and reflect back upon how much time we've wasted arguing with a bunch of religitards
You make me really glad I'm not 19 anymore. My friends and I used to have long discussions like this- I look back now and think, "Jesus Christ what a colossal waste of time."