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haniblecter

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Im sure most of you are aware of the dramtically decreased prices of minerals as of lately. The cause of this is fairly obvious: the 8 new regions, populated by drones, drop high end compounds that refine into huge amounts of Zyd and Megacyte, so much so, that we're expirencing historic mineral price lows.

Now, there's alot of bitching going on. Trit prices have skyrocketed, as has demand. People just cant mine enough trit to satisfy the demand. High end mins have dramatically decreased, making 00 mining faar less profitable. There's alot more ships on the market because of the lower high end min prices, so ship making profits margins are dropping.

Needless to say, there's alot of unhappy people. The only happy people are the mega industrialists, who are benefitting even more on the economies of scale and can artificially control their item's prices through sheer numbers.



I believe that CCP is going to revamp the drone drops in the new regions, changing them to drop less or give bounties/items (so they dont have to drop more high end mins). Im pretty sure CCP wanted to put more high ends on the market through the drone regions, but they over-estimated the amount that would get added, adn as such, the current cunnudrum. They'll do some tweeking, deffinantly resulting in an increase in price 1-2months down the road.

So, good time to buy 500mill in zyd?

Yay or Nay?
 
I hear you on the prices dropping. I used to be able to get 50million a unit for zyd before the last patch when they "fixed" the contracts to show x1 unit. I hope they return it to the way it was. However I'm not gonna hold my breathe. You'd figure those that whined about would have learned that no x whatever number next to the unit meant 1 after they first got scammed. But noooo they had to have big daddy CCP protect them from their own stupidity.
 
Code4 said:
I hear you on the prices dropping. I used to be able to get 50million a unit for zyd before the last patch when they "fixed" the contracts to show x1 unit. I hope they return it to the way it was. However I'm not gonna hold my breathe. You'd figure those that whined about would have learned that no x whatever number next to the unit meant 1 after they first got scammed. But noooo they had to have big daddy CCP protect them from their own stupidity.
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I was refering to legitamate ore prices, not your ebil pie-rat scamming.
 
I actually blame the massive drop in zyd prices partly on people hoarding for Revelations. When RMR was released, zyd prices about doubled. I personally lost ALOT of isk hoping the same would happen again.
 
Code4 said:
I hear you on the prices dropping. I used to be able to get 50million a unit for zyd before the last patch when they "fixed" the contracts to show x1 unit. I hope they return it to the way it was. However I'm not gonna hold my breathe. You'd figure those that whined about would have learned that no x whatever number next to the unit meant 1 after they first got scammed. But noooo they had to have big daddy CCP protect them from their own stupidity.
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rofl i hear you there
 
In all fairness, the high end minerals for high end prices were not designed to be like that. Now that it is coming back inline, the industrialists need to adapt as PVP'ers have at every major patch.
 
haniblecter said:
MAN, SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT SOME SHIT.
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Nah, watch it flatline again a week after Rev 2 comes out. This runup is all speculation, everyone is failing to take in to account mining in the Drone Regions is fixed now, meaning the halving of the drone Zydrine drops is going to be augmented by 8 new regions spewing out Zydrine-laden Crokite.
 
Speculation is a funny thing in eve. Some people will make some short term gains but I'm fairly certain most won't. Remember everyone selling off their T2 BPOs? Well the T2 market is down atm because there's years of people running agents and getting nothing so they're turning their datacores around for fast cash. That at some point will bottom out and the T2 market will make a partial comeback. The people who kept their BPOs will still be ahead of the game imho.
 
SaintDude said:
Speculation is a funny thing in eve. Some people will make some short term gains but I'm fairly certain most won't. Remember everyone selling off their T2 BPOs? Well the T2 market is down atm because there's years of people running agents and getting nothing so they're turning their datacores around for fast cash. That at some point will bottom out and the T2 market will make a partial comeback. The people who kept their BPOs will still be ahead of the game imho.
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T2 BPOs will always be a license to print money, inventors can't reach parity with them. Inventors have to cover the cost of invention plus build costs greater than than a well-researched BPO, so they can never win. Not that I as a T2 BPO holder am attempting to discourage invention or anything... ;)
 
I'd sell my 200million in zyd right now if anything. I'd realize, from what it looks, a 100% profit if I bought at the time of this thread.

Oh, and yea, if you caught that dev blog about stealths soon enough, I bet you could buy a ton of Stealths really quikc and flip them now for a tidy sum.

Its a for sure, they're deffinantly not oging down in price, only up.
 

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