[Mega] MAGA Super Trump Mega Thread

amRam said:
You're answering his simplistic garbage with more simplistic garbage of your own just FYI

There's a fine line between order and chaos, and this is the reason most societies have a finite life. They lose the balance. You need progressive ideas just as much as you need structured conservative principles to implement and run those ideas.
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Oh you absolutely need a balance thats why the 'pendulum' swings back and forth in this country. All those fantastic humanitarian programs the left comes up with ultimately ends up being paid for by the taxpayer and there is only so far that taxpayers will be taxed.

So then the right has to come back in and be the bad guys for a while, and left unchecked they too will go to an extreme until we don't give a shit about people at all, then the left comes back in...rinse and repeat
 
MC Hamster said:
There's a difference in the concept of the 'threat' here that we're probably diverging a bit on. I'm talking about the threat of the ideologies in themselves. You seem to be focusing on the threat that those ideologies are enacted. You're suggesting that leftism is a greater threat because leftist ideals are (in the current climate) more likely to come to pass, not because of the threat posed by those ideals in themselves. That's the point I was making.

I think we're on different paths, there.
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I see no benefit to either far left or far right ideologies. Neither extreme has done anything good for humanity in the modern age. Arguing about which ideology in itself is worse seems kind of fruitless. What matters is which direction the pendulum is swinging, and how much resistance there is against it.
 
Kiint said:
Most major cities in America are considered "left" leaning cities, you're basically saying that major cities aren't prosperous, and only rural centers show any prosperity ...
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And look at left leaning cities vs right.

Left cities like
Detroit
Chicago
New york
Seattle
San Francisco

What hasn't already died on that list is in a downward spiral of crime and drugs
 
JuggerNaught said:
Lets say the country was a life raft surrounded by people in the water. The left wants to take on everyone because its the humanitarian thing to do. The right says we can't or we'll all drown and the left screams about what heartless bastards the right is, even though those actions ultimately benefit all
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And somewhere between, there is a point where the life raft can take on a whole bunch of those people without really suffering.

There are also a bunch of other life rafts out there, with people in them looking at the occupants of that life raft and wondering how they should react. Maybe, between all the life rafts out there, there's actually enough room for the people in the water, and no-one has to die.
 
JuggerNaught said:
And look at left leaning cities vs right.

Left cities like
Detroit
Chicago
New york
Seattle
San Francisco

What hasn't already died on that list is in a downward spiral of crime and drugs
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Waiting on the list of what you consider right leaning cities buddy ...

This might help:

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MC Hamster said:
And somewhere between, there is a point where the life raft can take on a whole bunch of those people without really suffering.
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Thats what leftists think...because they are thinking of the problem with their heart. Meanwhile the right is looking at how close the water is to coming into the boat.

There are also a bunch of other life rafts out there, with people in them looking at the occupants of that life raft and wondering how they should react. Maybe, between all the life rafts out there, there's actually enough room for the people in the water, and no-one has to die.
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But they're all coming to one life raft.
 
acting like cities, as centers of financial activity, are financial islands unto themselves is incredibly funny

ALL THE MONEY IS IN THE CITY
 
Prosperity in cities is a function of geography. You're all seriously retarded for bothering with such a dumb argument. There's no causal relationship between the predominant political ideology of a city and its financial prosperity. Its financially favorable for workers and businesses to congregate closely, thus cities.
 
amRam said:
I see no benefit to either far left or far right ideologies. Neither extreme has done anything good for humanity in the modern age. Arguing about which ideology in itself is worse seems kind of fruitless. What matters is which direction the pendulum is swinging, and how much resistance there is against it.
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this right here.

and you can't deny (unless you want to lie to yourself and everyone else) that pretty much every institution in america is ran by the left now, the media, social media/big tech, government (local, state, and federal), hollywood/television, education, and even most huge corporations (take a look at the board members, usually left leaning people and sometimes even leftist politicians themselves). the balance is so far off that shit is starting to give. and when shit starts to give, it means that the balance is going to want to forcefully right itself, and it's not going to be pretty.
 
Kiint said:
I agree with the Hamster, and the reason why I agree is that the far right in general, demonstrated by many countries through history and most recently in the last four years of the US, have demonstrated a propensity towards regressive, restrictive, and societally destructive policies including taking away the rights of people (abortion choice for example) and relaxing restrictions on corporations to prey on the public with impunity.

The right do not engage in progressive policies that improve the general wellbeing of the people as a whole.

That is why the far right represents a greater societal threat.
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:rofl:

jfc, it's like you collectivist losers purposely overlook the abject failures of collectivism? Or are purposely lying to promote a loser's ideology here?

Did you not learn about 20th century collectivism and the world wars it spawned, the murderous take overs, the gulags, systemic racism (nazis)? Collectivist shitbags are responsible for at least 100 million deaths last century.

Here is a nice feel good story:
Mugabe returns to socialism | World news | The Guardian

v.

https://qz.com/africa/458137/mugabe-is-asking-back-the-white-farmers-he-chased-away/

:Hmm:

Leftwing losers are murderous thugs but the "right" is the problem?

LMFAO, you really cant make this shit up. :lol: :lol:
 
now that trump is out of power both sides are terrible i can't believe u partisan shills would even vote i just want there to be some balance :(
 
havax said:
this right here.

and you can't deny (unless you want to lie to yourself and everyone else) that pretty much every institution in america is ran by the left now, the media, social media/big tech, government (local, state, and federal), hollywood/television, education, and even most huge corporations (take a look at the board members, usually left leaning people and sometimes even leftist politicians themselves). the balance is so far off that shit is starting to give. and when shit starts to give, it means that the balance is going to want to forcefully right itself, and it's not going to be pretty.
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:lol:
 
Kiint said:
Waiting on the list of what you consider right leaning cities buddy ...

This might help:

liberal_conservative_cities1.png
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Ok, and none of those cities are the hollowed out husk of a city like Detroit, none of them have daily running gun battles like chicago, none of them have so many homeless shitting on the streets that someone actually made an app to track the piles like SF.

And New York..i mean do i have to list the ways its fucked up?

Those were at one time major metro areas and then democrats and progressives started pushing for social programs...that aren't free....that end up getting paid for by things like local corporate tax, sales tax, penny taxes and the companies get tired of getting hammered and leave, taking their jobs with them. When the jobs go, the people that pay the taxes go. When the people that pay the taxes go, you have no more money to keep the city going and what you have left is the less than desirable citizens...drugs....prostitution....crime.
 
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