You are ok with small businesses getting eaten up by larger companies because thats how business works, but you won't stand for multi-billion dollar companies doing the same thing only on a larger scale?
Do you support the minimum wage hike to $15 an hour?
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You are ok with small businesses getting eaten up by larger companies because thats how business works, but you won't stand for multi-billion dollar companies doing the same thing only on a larger scale?
Yes.
There is no 'law' in the business world that small companies should be "allowed" to live or given special treatment. As a business either you can survive, or you can't and if you can survive as a business, it shouldn't be on the backs of your employees who work 40+ hours a week to put money in your pocket, but can't put food on their own table or pay their own bills.
KingSobieski
Veteran XX
AAaaaaaaanddddd
Juggs totally misses the boat
not that it wouldve supported him anyways
Juggs totally misses the boat
not that it wouldve supported him anyways
Well since you have no actual depth to your post...you obviously must be correct.
KingSobieski
Veteran XX
i rest my case
If they can survive.
If they can't...they can't. There is nothing useful about a small business that creates welfare recipient, except for the small business owner.
If they can't...they can't. There is nothing useful about a small business that creates welfare recipient, except for the small business owner.
Kerosene31
Veteran XV
Rather than this, I would convert all welfare handouts to workfare.
Right now, welfare is broken because why bust your ass for $8 an hour when you can get paid to stay home and do nothing?
Take all the welfare money and only give it to people who work 40 hours a week. That way, you essentially raise minimum wage without adding cost to anything. You're just shifting the money already there.
I am for some increase in minimum wage as well, but obviously you can't nearly double labor costs and not totally mess up the system. Most decent places will offer a little more than min wage anyway to get a little better people.
Right now, welfare is broken because why bust your ass for $8 an hour when you can get paid to stay home and do nothing?
Take all the welfare money and only give it to people who work 40 hours a week. That way, you essentially raise minimum wage without adding cost to anything. You're just shifting the money already there.
I am for some increase in minimum wage as well, but obviously you can't nearly double labor costs and not totally mess up the system. Most decent places will offer a little more than min wage anyway to get a little better people.
I am in favor of it because:
A) I want more automation, and I want it now.
B) Full time workers should not require welfare.
If you despise welfare, then you must be for an increase in minimum wage. (Unless you are purposefully trying to create slaves.)
I don't buy the idea that automation will cause a crash in jobs. Unions have been fighting technology for decades, yet it always ends up benefiting the worker in the long run.
A) I want more automation, and I want it now.
B) Full time workers should not require welfare.
If you despise welfare, then you must be for an increase in minimum wage. (Unless you are purposefully trying to create slaves.)
I don't buy the idea that automation will cause a crash in jobs. Unions have been fighting technology for decades, yet it always ends up benefiting the worker in the long run.
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I think the local economy should determine what people get paid.
The reason minimum wage is so low is because there is an infinite amount of unskilled laborers. Firing a minimum wage worker is not a big deal because there is always another person ready to take the position, usually a high school or young adult who is in school.
$15 minimum wage in a place like Pensacola Florida would destroy the entire economy, it might be necessary in San Francisco or New York, but there are places in the country where 80k a year is equivalent to 30k and vice versa.
Let's also not forget that you aren't just raising the wages of minimum wage workers, but you now have to give someone who was making $12 an hour, $15. This will affect the prices of all goods and services, not just fast food joints or other type businesses.
My first job was at Best Buy and I was making like $8-9 an hour, I literally did nothing, $15 an hour?
The reason minimum wage is so low is because there is an infinite amount of unskilled laborers. Firing a minimum wage worker is not a big deal because there is always another person ready to take the position, usually a high school or young adult who is in school.
$15 minimum wage in a place like Pensacola Florida would destroy the entire economy, it might be necessary in San Francisco or New York, but there are places in the country where 80k a year is equivalent to 30k and vice versa.
Let's also not forget that you aren't just raising the wages of minimum wage workers, but you now have to give someone who was making $12 an hour, $15. This will affect the prices of all goods and services, not just fast food joints or other type businesses.
My first job was at Best Buy and I was making like $8-9 an hour, I literally did nothing, $15 an hour?
NightTrain
Veteran XX
They cant survive because large corporations buy politicians who ensure that only their benefactors benefit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture
Like Walmart?
Best to pay people less, so gov't can pick up their costs for employment like health care (which the gov't also runs) and retirement entitlements (which the gov't also runs). After all this model works great for Wallmart. In general then the principle of "privatize profits, socialize debt" works quite well.
The question really should be; why is the minimum wage $11/hr? Shouldn't the market set the rate? Sure individuals hoping to eat have to negotiate with the rather big pockets of companies like Wallmart, but we're all equal before the law, and in a competitive society that's how things are done - you negotiate. People might not be able to eat on $5/hr. but there's lots of ngo welfare agencies and food banks to keep them alive.
Clearly then there shouldn't be any minimum wage law. Some people don't have a high iq or the discipline required to study past high school for 2+ years, but they're great at tedious manual work, and have a unique skill which allows them to work for hours and years on end making widgets or flipping burgers. They spend a third of their life doing mindless tasks. Having worked in a factory for 3 months I can attest to this being a skill. However let's not mention it, and make sure our intellectual elites are never exposed to such tedium, else if we call this a skill, these dummies might wake up and start realizing their worth, get all uppity and demand a decent wage.
It's ok for the rich to declare a class war, but ask the little people if they deserve a better life and it's "hell no."
The question really should be; why is the minimum wage $11/hr? Shouldn't the market set the rate? Sure individuals hoping to eat have to negotiate with the rather big pockets of companies like Wallmart, but we're all equal before the law, and in a competitive society that's how things are done - you negotiate. People might not be able to eat on $5/hr. but there's lots of ngo welfare agencies and food banks to keep them alive.
Clearly then there shouldn't be any minimum wage law. Some people don't have a high iq or the discipline required to study past high school for 2+ years, but they're great at tedious manual work, and have a unique skill which allows them to work for hours and years on end making widgets or flipping burgers. They spend a third of their life doing mindless tasks. Having worked in a factory for 3 months I can attest to this being a skill. However let's not mention it, and make sure our intellectual elites are never exposed to such tedium, else if we call this a skill, these dummies might wake up and start realizing their worth, get all uppity and demand a decent wage.
You're absolutely correct.I've never understood those who see a minimum wage hike as giving too much money to unskilled workers.
You do realize that wages haven't kept up with inflation for a long time now? We should ALL be seeing a wage increase, not just the minimum.
California just passed a $15 minimum wage, but it doesn't fully take effect until 2022. That's half a decade from now. IMO, if minimum wage kept up with inflation like it should, it should be even higher by then.
The "1%" are all laughing at us while we squabble over these scraps when we should instead be banding together demanding proper wages/compensation.
It's ok for the rich to declare a class war, but ask the little people if they deserve a better life and it's "hell no."
- Sheldon Adelson CEO Viacom
Idiocracy should just be considered a documentary at this point.
Carl's Jr. just announced that they are leaving California, which will save them millions per year in taxes. On top of this, they are now investing in more automation.
NightTrain
Veteran XX
Where do I sign up for some of these socialized losses? When Jamie Dimon fucks up, he gets a bailout. When I do, I'm on the street.
yeah some more than others.
Exactly. The difference between walmart and most small businesses is that walmart has the ability to give a raise to their employees
If a small business can do the same..great! If not...then they get swallowed up by companies who can
i also think that minimum wage should be raised in certain areas depending on cost of living, but not so much in other areas
$8.00/hr in smalltown Oklahoma doesn't mean the same at $8/hr in NYC
$8.00/hr in smalltown Oklahoma doesn't mean the same at $8/hr in NYC