Woman's 5-day trip from Florida to Maine in van was an 'inhumane . . . hell.'

what is the proposed material gain for her in reporting that she took a shit in a mcdonalds wrapper? it's not like she's standing trial or something, her sentence was already fixed and mostly served by the time of this article. the details were also independently corroborated by another passenger.

not saying they wouldn't lie but not seeing why they would, unless there's a gofundme involved somewhere
 
bowl of blood said:
what is the proposed material gain for her in reporting that she took a shit in a mcdonalds wrapper? it's not like she's standing trial or something, her sentence was already fixed and mostly served by the time of this article. the details were also independently corroborated by another passenger.

not saying they wouldn't lie but not seeing why they would, unless there's a gofundme involved somewhere
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I already said I am against abuse so again I am against abuse. Now maybe this lady and others have valid complaints.

I can totally see a different possibility though.

She has the shits and expects them to stop for her wherever they are with no regard to security which is impossible.
 
so many people abuse the system

the system no longer cares about anyone

a system that no longer cares about anyone victimizes everyone

rinse and repeat

get lawyers involved and you officially fucked no matter path taken
 
this thread sounds exactly like flying coach.
i had to do that about a month ago and it was dreadful.
i wanted to die.
 
yeah...i can see the downside with them

but sadly we have public prisons/jails that are so over crowded, because gubmt always wastes money, has bad priorities, abuses funding, that they are letting actual bank robbers out because they don't "have room" for them.

i mean there wasn't a single non-violent drug related person that could have been released first?

this is all about leverage over those who fund them. they want more money for their industrial complex so they let the worst people out to fear us into giving them more tax money to waste. that or they go private services and scare the shit out of us through what they think is a good idea of cost cutting effectiveness

either way ughhhhhhhhhh
 
ztir bleeds for every criminal and broke dick in the world

that is why he needs so much socialized healthcare to keep him alive

he is lifeblood and dialysis of criminally ill
 
No I think maybe they shouldn't be treated in the way the article described

Nuance is a concept completely lost on you, so I'm not surprised the only options to you are "transported cross country in a 3x3 chicken wire cage for 7 days" or first class
 
Ztir said:
No I think maybe they shouldn't be treated in the way the article described

Nuance is a concept completely lost on you, so I'm not surprised the only options to you are "transported cross country in a 3x3 chicken wire cage for 7 days" or first class
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So explain. Take abuse out of it and use logical thinking about places to stop and security issues.

What would this nuance concept be like? Describe it. Transport thousands of prisoners a year with limited funds because we agree first class is out and do it securely. Explain how it would be different than we do it today.

Prisoners have to be restrained so having a bathroom on board would work but with say 2 people, a guard and a driver wouldn't it be prudent to stop the bus and help escort? They are not all little women like you some are bad guys. So for the sake of time, we would still have to schedule bathrooms breaks right? And to keep idiots from abusing the bathroom break we still need to enforce it.

K, even with buses we would need to send them around to pick up and deliver like always so that doesn't cut down on road time.

I'm having trouble Ztir, how an we make this more comfortable, while being shackled, with a lot of prisoners and limited options for bathroom breaks and sleeping arrangements?
 
put a diaper on them, pack them in a box, and ship them air freight. Guaranteed faster, probably more comfortable.
 
Rayn said:
and they may be innocent or guilty. its not acceptable to treat these people with such a lack of disrespect for basic human dignity, this is something that could happen to someone completely innocent.
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Apparently this person doesn't have enough money to be innocent
 
my buddies called me from fl on sb once so i quit my job and took a red eye

i was there like 40 min b4 some stranger claimed i was buying booze for minors

these 5-6 crackhead dudes tried to jump me and throw me over 2nd floor balcony

it was hotel security

i pulled one of their eyes out when they tried to toss me over and it took all of them to hold me down probably cuz i was greasy from gettin my tan on. ne way they stole my id so i couldnt lease another room. since half the bros went to jail and half dipped out over the balcony. a great 60 hour vacation that lasted 2

ne way i spoke w/ the chief of police of the city when they wouldnt return my drivers license/id so i could fly home

he told me, straight up, "im not sure which of my officers have your license, i truly wish i did because after 5-6 lawyers have been harassing my personal/house phone for the last 24 hours i would gladly hand it over. you're not the first complaint this year from this resort and most of their "security" are the worst of the worst, i'll be in my office at 6am in the morning if you want to file formal charges, i'll handle them myself"

so uh how do i get on my flight without id

"i'll have an officer meet you at the airport to confirm your identity through security"

cop was there, w/ a copy of my d/l, confirming they had it lmao

but some fat girl bought me lunch and the bartender let me drink after i told her my story

man bein white rules

edit: 2 put this in context, 2 of the dudes i was w/ is doin life w/o parole, another is doing a 10-20 for robbery, and the other is just a good bud
 
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