YouTube ordered to hand over user details

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Source: http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,25642,23963774-5014108,00.html

YOUTUBE has been ordered to give up records of each clip watched on the popular video-sharing website, along with the date, time and IP address of each person who watched it, to media giant Viacom.

In a ruling that could have major implications for online privacy around the world, US District Court judge Louis Stanton granted Viacom access to the records as part of its ongoing copyright infringement lawsuit against Google and its subsidiary YouTube.


Each time a video is played, YouTube's "Logging" database records the user ID and IP address of the viewer, the date and time of the request and the ID of the clip – and includes details of videos embedded on websites other than YouTube.


"While the Logging database is large, all of its contents can be copied onto a few 'over-the-shelf' four-terabyte hard drives," Judge Stanton said, in response to Google's claim that providing the data would be too difficult.


"The motion to compel production of all data from the Logging database concerning each time a YouTube video has been viewed on the YouTube website or through embedding on a third-party website is granted."


Viacom sought access to the database in a bid to prove that clips allegedly infringing copyright, such as scenes from TV shows and movies, were more popular than user-generated videos.

Online rights group Electronic Frontier Foundation said the decision stood at odds with US privacy laws and was a "setback to privacy rights".

"The court’s order grants Viacom's request and erroneously ignores the protections of the federal Video Privacy Protection Act (VPPA), and threatens to expose deeply private information about what videos are watched by YouTube users," said a statement on the group's website.

"We urge Viacom to back off this overbroad request and Google to take all steps necessary to challenge this order and protect the rights of its users."


Judge Stanton denied Viacom's requests for access to other Google and YouTube properties, including the search engine's source code – including the algorithms it uses to provide search results.


Viacom began legal action against YouTube in February 2007, when it issued over 100,000 takedown notices to the website regarding material in breach of copyright.

In March 2007, the media giant instigated a $US1 billion lawsuit against Google and YouTube, alleging that the video-sharing website hosted over 150,000 unauthorised clips that had been viewed more than 1.5 billion times.

Viacom's media empire includes Paramount Pictures, MTV, DreamWorks and Nickelodeon.

It is not known if Google will challenge the decision.

Crazy - It does not sound like it would be made anonymous either.

Also, *wtf* at requesting the source code to search engine algorithms? What the fuck does that have to do with it.
 
"While the Logging database is large, all of its contents can be copied onto a few 'over-the-shelf' four-terabyte hard drives," Judge Stanton said, in response to Google's claim that providing the data would be too difficult.

yep, quite easy to get 'over-the-shelf' four-terabyte drives :lol:
 
Whoever made youtube was smart.

Make video uploading/downloading easy, have 99% of the submissions be homemade videos that no one care about and take up little traffic, but have 1% invariably be professional clips that pretty much result in all the bandwidth. Don't have the company make money because making money is too fucking hard.

Sell out when the company gets big, let the buyers take all the flak.
 
I thought as long as only clips of tv shows and not entire shows were uploaded it wasn't a problem.

let me guess viacom owns yahoo or one of the other "major" search engines.

The grab for the google source code is enough to say this was a frivolous lawsuit.
 
Yahoo and viacom are in bed together on this.

http://news.cnet.com/2100-1024_3-6174838.html

viacom pays yahoo a shit load to advertise for them. turns out they should have gone with google because yahoo sucks so they want to kill google so all that money they spent doesn't get wasted.

Is that how a conspiracy theory goes Orby? I think I did it right, not sure though its my first one.

That article even mentions the lawsuit.
 
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Hmm I'd never heard of 'over-the-shelf'. Sounds like 'off-the-shelf' and 'over-the-counter' had a baby.

off-the-shelf means you can buy it as a product... you dont need to make / configure it yourself...

i bet you could go to best buy and get one
 
Hopefully this can be appealed so an ignorant judge doesn't set a very bad privacy precedent.
 
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