discovery would be ok if not for the stupid spore drive or the black chick or all the gayness or the fat ginger with the lumps all over her face.. the klingons are pretty sucky too. they are winning the war but haven't seen them fight many klingons. i dont know, only thing i like is the captain and his story so far.
orville is ok though, good for a laugh. a bit too political but better than i expected.
orville is ok though, good for a laugh. a bit too political but better than i expected.