Second FBI Raid This Week: Erotic Stories Website Hit, Apparently Over Obscenity

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PITTSBURGH, PA - The FBI raided the home of a controversial erotic stories website owner on Friday, apparently on charges of obscenity. The website, red-rose-stories.com, posted a notice on its home page announcing the raid and warning customers that the FBI now has access to all past customer information.

“I am sorry to inform all interested parties that Red Rose Stories is a DEAD site,” read a statement posted on the website by operator Rosie. “The FBI has suceeded [sic] in closing me down. I am being charged with 'OBSCENITIES' and face charges for having posted such stories. Our stories are NOT protected speech. Please, please, be careful out there.”

The stories in question, according to the website’s announcements, include no images or videos, but describe acts of bestiality, urination, scat, BDSM, slavery, threesomes, orgies and sex with children.

According to Rosie’s post, the FBI entered her home while she was away and seized several items before leaving.

“The men in black (FBI) took ALL of my computer equipment, and many of my diskettes, and have access to ALL my files and site information,” Rosie warned on her site. “They came when I was NOT home and siezed [sic] my belongings, I had no choice, and no recourse.”

Rosie’s attorney Larry Walters, of Weston, Garrou, DeWitt and Walters, said that the FBI will have a difficult case if the raid was merely over the content of text stories.

"We're still investigating the issues associated with the raid, but at this point it does not appear that any basis exists to justify obscenity charges premised on the written stories and audio files that were the subject of the search warrant,” Walters told YNOT. “While obscenity laws are broad enough to potentially cover the written word, a conviction based solely on text, or even audio, would be an extreme uphill battle for the government in the current culture. We are hopeful that once the matter is reviewed at the next level, no further action will be taken in regards to the stories at issue."

The Red Rose raid has already set off a firestorm of opinions on adult webmaster chat boards, with some people expressing dismay that stories could fall under obscenity laws, while others stated support for the FBI in its targeting of such materials.

“Publishing pedo fantasy stories about 6 month old babies getting finger fucked is OBSCENE, is over the line, and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law,” posted one user on GFY.com, although YNOT has not yet been able to verify the exact nature of the targeted stories. “I have no sympathy for this site. It should not be protected as free spreech [sic]. The entire premise is to cater to the fantasies of pedos at the most debased and perverted levels imaginable. When you are writing sexually perverse stories describing pornographic acts on infants, toddlers, and children you are generating the same effeect [sic] as if you were publishing pictures of such.”

Another poster disagreed that stories can be equated to actual pictures of children being abused.

“I do not care what a story is about,” the poster wrote. “It could be as sick, perverted, evil, and downright dispicable [sic] to satan himself and it should never be considered illegal. It is a fucking story.”

The case is still under investigation, and it is unclear whether charges other than obscenity will be leveled against the site operator.
 
supreme court precedent states that as long as no child is actually harmed, virtual child pornography (I.E. hentai) is acceptable (depending on community standards)

since the community was the internet pedophile stroke-story ring, i think the community standards accept that sort of thing. and since no child was harmed in the making of the stories... well, fuck big brother. fuck this nazi censorship.
 
Tribalbob said:
supreme court precedent states that as long as no child is actually harmed, virtual child pornography (I.E. hentai) is acceptable (depending on community standards)

since the community was the internet pedophile stroke-story ring, i think the community standards accept that sort of thing. and since no child was harmed in the making of the stories... well, fuck big brother. fuck this nazi censorship.

The Supreme Court needs to rethink that decision if true, any writing/graphic depiction of raping children is fucking sick, and shouldn't be legal....
 
JoMo said:
The Supreme Court needs to rethink that decision if true, any writing/graphic depiction of raping children is fucking sick, and shouldn't be legal....

How am I spozed to get off then?!?!?!
 
I'm pretty sure the FBI's mode of thinking here is that the people who are downloading pedo text stories probably have other and unquestionably illegal forms of kiddie porn also.

While the text stories themselves are sick but legal if no child was actually exploited I'm sure there would be enough cause to check out the downloaders.
 
JoMo said:
The Supreme Court needs to rethink that decision if true, any writing/graphic depiction of raping children is fucking sick, and shouldn't be legal....
Sorry that's not how this country runs
 
JoMo said:
The Supreme Court needs to rethink that decision if true, any writing/graphic depiction of raping children is fucking sick, and shouldn't be legal....
Would you rather a guy get his nut off to some sick story a couple times a week, OR would you rather he go out and rape 6 year olds?

I'll take the lesser of the two evils, thank you.
 
JoMo said:
The Supreme Court needs to rethink that decision if true, any writing/graphic depiction of raping children is fucking sick, and shouldn't be legal....

promoting violence against blacks is fucking sick

gay marriage is fucking sick
being against gay marriage is fucking sick
(pick one)

demanding a crusade against arabs because of some fucking extremist group is seriously disgusting.

but it's all protected under the first ammendment. your right to wear a nazi sign, and your right to speak out against our fucked up government.

the child pornography laws are made to protect children. if no child gets hurt, if these people can get off without having to rape a preschooler, then the intent of the law is still upheld.
 
The dumbest thing about this IMO is how do you judge a WEBSITE (that exists on the internet !!) against the standards of the community by subjecting it to a real life court? Apparently the website has a community that enjoys it.

Also, I love how the FBI goes after EROTIC STORIES websites instead of stuff like, i dunno ogrish or rotten.com . fucking prudes :(
 
Chikaze said:
Would you rather a guy get his nut off to some sick story a couple times a week, OR would you rather he go out and rape 6 year olds?

I'll take the lesser of the two evils, thank you.

Unless you stop to think that people reading these stories may be sick enough to go out and "live the fantasy".

It's the 'gateway' that leads to actually commiting a crime.
 
The FBI is gearing up for a "war on obscenity". This is just the first step...
 
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Will it be next? I wonder if they are going after the "fake rape" sites as well?
 
its hard for me to think about pervs and baby stories (since i have a 2 year old), id have to say that freedom of speech is more important than worrying about a small segment of society that wants to view that shit.

its a slippery slope and if everything starts getting censored, the very mention of stopping the authorities once they have gone too far may get you locked up (yay were like china now!)
 
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