real reasons for the iraq war

cartman

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Normally i dont do posts but i thought this material is really good. Comes from an interview with a former pentagon officer published in the laweekly. Her conclusions are very blunt and imo very accurate. I think the best part of the interview is her answer to this question:
So if, as you argue, they knew there weren’t any of these WMD, then what exactly drove the neoconservatives to war?

her answer:
The neoconservatives pride themselves on having a global vision, a long-term strategic perspective. And there were three reasons why they felt the U.S. needed to topple Saddam, put in a friendly government and occupy Iraq.

One of those reasons is that sanctions and containment were working and everybody pretty much knew it. Many companies around the world were preparing to do business with Iraq in anticipation of a lifting of sanctions. But the U.S. and the U.K. had been bombing northern and southern Iraq since 1991. So it was very unlikely that we would be in any kind of position to gain significant contracts in any post-sanctions Iraq. And those sanctions were going to be lifted soon, Saddam would still be in place, and we would get no financial benefit.

The second reason has to do with our military-basing posture in the region. We had been very dissatisfied with our relations with Saudi Arabia, particularly the restrictions on our basing. And also there was dissatisfaction from the people of Saudi Arabia. So we were looking for alternate strategic locations beyond Kuwait, beyond Qatar, to secure something we had been searching for since the days of Carter — to secure the energy lines of communication in the region. Bases in Iraq, then, were very important — that is, if you hold that is America’s role in the world. Saddam Hussein was not about to invite us in.

The last reason is the conversion, the switch Saddam Hussein made in the Food for Oil program, from the dollar to the euro. He did this, by the way, long before 9/11, in November 2000 — selling his oil for euros. The oil sales permitted in that program aren’t very much. But when the sanctions would be lifted, the sales from the country with the second largest oil reserves on the planet would have been moving to the euro.

The U.S. dollar is in a sensitive period because we are a debtor nation now. Our currency is still popular, but it’s not backed up like it used to be. If oil, a very solid commodity, is traded on the euro, that could cause massive, almost glacial, shifts in confidence in trading on the dollar. So one of the first executive orders that Bush signed in May [2003] switched trading on Iraq’s oil back to the dollar.


Anyways i think this answer is unequivocal and dead-on. The rest of the article is pretty good too if you would like to read it: http://www.laweekly.com/ink/04/13/news-cooper.php
Would be interested in anyone's thoughts on this.

cliff notes:
1. when sanctions are lifted, we would get no financial benefit while the french, russians and whoever did business with iraq.
2. need new military bases since we were getting kicked outa saudi arabia
3. saddam was trading oil in euros, we'd rather have the 2nd largest oil reserve be traded in dollars.
 
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I think that those reasons for the war are much more believable than anything that the US Government has given.

But then again, any positive integer is greater than zero.

As for the article's depiction of the neo-con takeover of the Pentagon, I am reminded of the Star Trek TNG episode where those little critters climbed into people's necks...
 
well considering we're in the middle of a huge annual troop rotation, this aint exactly beating a dead horse. It looks like we're gonna be there indefinitely.
 
Brasstax said:
It wasn't to keep us safe from terrorists?
Last I checked it was good ol' Bin McLaden we were after, not Saddamy.


Not that I support Saddamy mind you. I think it's a real pain in the ass. :grimreape
 
Yep, you're right.

Bringing freedom to the Iraqis had absolutely nothing to do with it. Nothing.

Not a damn thing.













:rolleyes:
 
I'm sure she had the inside track on all the top level decision making. These are her opinions, nothing more.
 
Data said:
Yep, you're right.

Bringing freedom to the Iraqis had absolutely nothing to do with it. Nothing.

Not a damn thing.





its not wrong to be idealistic in a vacuum, but our actions in iraq does not bear that out. Consider this, the u.s. have arbitrarily set up a june 30 hand over date instead of working towards a national election that would legitimately create an iraqi govt. Ya sure sounds like freedom at work.







:rolleyes:
 
Data said:
Yep, you're right.

Bringing freedom to the Iraqis had absolutely nothing to do with it. Nothing.

Not a damn thing.

We aren't going out of our way to insure freedom in Syria or Saudi Arabia unless I missed something.
 
Yankee said:
I'm sure she had the inside track on all the top level decision making. These are her opinions, nothing more.

she was apart of the infamous OSP. That is as inside as it gets. As much as they are opinions, they are very credible opinions of an analyst who worked for 20 years in the pentagon. Besides of which, much of what she is stating are pretty much self evident stuff regardless of who says it. In other words you could draw the same conclusions just by observing events surrounding iraq and the u.s. over the past few years. Nothing she says is all that radical.
 
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