[DOGS] The Pit Bull Problem

Actually if it was just a dog fighting instinct we wouldn't have this thread... it's the whole in general fighting that is the issue
 
Pitbulls aren't real, guys. It's like, just a name that people made up and it's not real. Any dog is a "pitbull" if you throw them into a pit for any type of fighting.

Geez, guys. Come on. It's so obvious.
 
Validuz said:
Pitbulls aren't real, guys. It's like, just a name that people made up and it's not real. Any dog is a "pitbull" if you throw them into a pit for any type of fighting.

Geez, guys. Come on. It's so obvious.
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right?

all dogs are the same

and all the races are equal

facts and logic and stats be damned folks

that is now the world we live in somehow
 
who would win in a race

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vs.

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nobody knows.......because in my eyes all dogs are the same

they are all equal in gods eyes

*EYES OF AN ANGEL*
 
Put them both on an oval track and they're both greyhounds, of course.

God, you idiot. Do you not get how this works?!
 
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JuggerNaught said:
Yeah no. Pitbulls were originally just English bulldogs. They were used for bullbaiting and bear-baiting. Basically they would throw a couple bulldogs into a confined area with a bear or bull and the dogs would either get slapped down, or they would run the bigger animal to exhaustion until it was finally worn out enough for them to attack and bring it down. Baiting was made illegal so a new 'sport' popped up called ratting. Thats where the 'pit' in pitbull comes from. The dogs were put into pits with rats and you bet on how many your dog would kill. Then dogfighting came into it later
They weren't bred for dogfighting.

There aren't multiple 'names' for them. There are stupid people that lump about 5 -6 breeds into the name 'pitbull' because they don' know any better.

There is no 'dogfighting instinct'.
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Yeah no. Pitbulls were bred for dogfighting. The ratting era was a brief interlude between fighting bulls & bears and fighting dogs. When ratting and fighting other dogs, breeders realized the heavy bulldogs lacked agility. They were bred with terriers to make them more agile. The terrier mix also gave them more aggression. Hence, the pit bull.

And they keep renaming the breed to distance it from its own history. The first time it had an official name was when the United Kennel Club formed and recognized it as the American Pit Bull Terrier. The UKC was formed by pitbull owning dogfighters in the US because the AKC refused to recognize their bloodsport mongrels. Later, dogfighting breeders like John Colby convinced the AKC to recognize the breed. But they didn't want to have anything to do with a dog name related to the bloodsport it was bred for. Hence, the Staffordshire Terrier was born. Its the exact same dog as the pitbull. People registered their pitbulls under both names in both registries.
 
Pits were inarguably nanny dogs in the early 1900s in the US. It’s also inarguable that breeders have picked the most aggressive pits for breeeding, so some pit lines may be too anxious to “VVA!”
 
I had a rescue dog that was a chi min pin mix. He was pretty awesome most of the time but then his min pin side would come out and he was a total dick, nipping and biting people. We had training for him but it never worked because he was great around the trainer.
 
clu said:
Pits were inarguably nanny dogs in the early 1900s in the US. It’s also inarguable that breeders have picked the most aggressive pits for breeeding, so some pit lines may be too anxious to “VVA!”
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they were never nanny dogs. I'm arguing it.
 
Shiloh said:
they were never nanny dogs. I'm arguing it.
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this is all the time i'll devote right now for evidence to the contrary

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_bull

Pit bulls were created by breeding bulldogs and terriers together to produce a dog that combined the gameness and agility of the terrier with the strength of the bulldog. In the United Kingdom, these dogs were used in blood sports such as bull-baiting and bear-baiting. These blood sports were officially eliminated in 1835 as Britain began to introduce animal welfare laws.

Since dogfights were cheaper to organize and far easier to conceal from the law than bull or bear baits, blood sport proponents turned to pitting their dogs against each other instead. Dog fighting was used as both a blood sport (often involving gambling) and a way to continue to test the quality of their stock. For decades afterwards, dog fighting clandestinely took place in small areas of Britain and America. In the early 20th century pit bulls were used as catch dogs in America for semi-wild cattle and hogs, to hunt, and drive livestock, and as family companions. Some have been selectively bred for their fighting prowess.

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Dogs termed pit bulls share similar physical characteristics, but the morphological variation amongst bully breed dogs makes it difficult for even experts to visually identify them as distinct. While mixed breed dogs are often labeled as pit bulls if they have certain physical characteristics such as a square shaped head or bulky body type...

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Pit bull breeds have become famous for their roles as soldiers, police dogs, search and rescue dogs, actors, television personalities, seeing eye dogs, and celebrity pets. The American Staffordshire Terrier, Pete the Pup from the movie Little Rascals is a historically well known pit bull. Lesser known, but still historically notable pit bulls include Billie Holiday's companion "Mister", Helen Keller's dog "Sir Thomas", Buster Brown's dog "Tige", Horatio Jackson's dog "Bud", President Theodore Roosevelt's Pit Bull terrier "Pete", "Jack Brutus" who served for Company K, the First Connecticut Volunteer Infantry during the civil war, Sergeant Stubby who served for the 102nd Infantry, 26th (Yankee) Division during World War I, and Sir Walter Scott's "Wasp".
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