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pretty awesome theory. certainly seems possible, if not even probable. I like it.
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pretty awesome theory. certainly seems possible, if not even probable. I like it.
lmao
His timeline is all over the place and wrong..
Men and the children defeated the others, THEN the wall was built and THEN the night's watch was created. The Night's King was then subsequently a Lord Commander. Since the starks and the king beyond the wall worked together to defeat the Night King, there was already a sizeable population north of the wall.
It doesn't make sense for the Others to create the wall (or help) and then wait around for the Night King to marry their queen to broker a peace when the war had already been over for years if not decades or longer by the time the war of the Night King occured.
He also implies that the Others do not mean to massacre the wildlings but just herd them south and pick at the edges. This flies in the face of what we know with the Others attacking villages and the wilding city. They really are sweeping the north and killing everyone they run into.
His entire theory also rests on Rhaegar somehow knowing all this and striving to acheive a balance between fire and ice (starting the war that ended the Targs) rather than the much more believable story of loving Lyanna Stark because she was a hot piece of ass that put out.
Also there's that whole "The Others only come when it's cold, or it gets cold when the Others come," line. Most likely the Others only emerge from the shadows when it's cold enough, which is why their appearances have been ramping up as Winter sets in, and why it's taking them this long to push south.
yes the entire night's king/marriage bit is off since that story came after the long night and construction of the wall.
all we really know is the night's king boinked a white walker-esque chick, did some evil shit/sacrifices and was defeated. and now we know he turns craster's bastards into others' as well.
so there are holes...was the chick an other? what happened to him after he was defeated? was he a stark? is he the "anti-christ" or azor ahai...rezzed after dying at the nightfort?
also agree with fool, the blizzardy shit that happens when they are around can be mystical but i believe that is separate from the fact a long winter is otw.
all we really know is the night's king boinked a white walker-esque chick, did some evil shit/sacrifices and was defeated. and now we know he turns craster's bastards into others' as well.
so there are holes...was the chick an other? what happened to him after he was defeated? was he a stark? is he the "anti-christ" or azor ahai...rezzed after dying at the nightfort?
also agree with fool, the blizzardy shit that happens when they are around can be mystical but i believe that is separate from the fact a long winter is otw.
SecretSquirrel
Veteran XV
Petyr Baelish, popularly called Littlefinger, is a major character in the first, second, third, fourth and fifth seasons.
There is only one way he can claim the throne. He's a Blackfyre, descended from Aegon Rivers, and has Blackfyre somewhere, waiting to pull it out.
When they are counting the swords in the iron throne, it's highly possible Varys was looking to see if it had been hidden there, someone having previously counted the swords which he read in a book.
There is only one way he can claim the throne. He's a Blackfyre, descended from Aegon Rivers, and has Blackfyre somewhere, waiting to pull it out.
When they are counting the swords in the iron throne, it's highly possible Varys was looking to see if it had been hidden there, someone having previously counted the swords which he read in a book.
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SecretSquirrel
Veteran XV
He's like,
f-you Jon Arryn,
f-you, Robert Batheron,
f-you Stark,
f-you Lannister,
f-you Batheron again,
f-you Stark again,
f-you Lannister again,
Starts getting a little worried about Daenerys
Grabs a female Tully-Stark
Turns Lannisters and Highgarden on each other
Highgarden complains. Sorry, you are not part of my plan, Highgarden.
Sends a false Blackfyre toward Westros. "But I thought he would have the sword."
Sets up the Reach by buying all the debts of the Lords of the Vale.
Clears way for invasion through the Vale by Braavos.
Iron Bank owns Westros and gets its due through him.
It's a matter of logistics.
f-you Jon Arryn,
f-you, Robert Batheron,
f-you Stark,
f-you Lannister,
f-you Batheron again,
f-you Stark again,
f-you Lannister again,
Starts getting a little worried about Daenerys
Grabs a female Tully-Stark
Turns Lannisters and Highgarden on each other
Highgarden complains. Sorry, you are not part of my plan, Highgarden.
Sends a false Blackfyre toward Westros. "But I thought he would have the sword."
Sets up the Reach by buying all the debts of the Lords of the Vale.
Clears way for invasion through the Vale by Braavos.
Iron Bank owns Westros and gets its due through him.
It's a matter of logistics.
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Yeah that really isn't true, neither that article or the io9 interview it references offer any evidence that Jon isn't dead. That is some serious grasping at straws and reading between lines that aren't actually there.
The best evidence that Jon is alive is that it makes the most sense for him to be alive or resurrected from a narrative stand point.
Yeah, it sounds like the story changed as a result of not doing the 5 year gap, so it could have a completely different arc going than what he originally thought of. What would have happened with the 5 year gap doesn't necessarily mean it hasn't already happened or may have changed as a result of not doing it.