Putin is a badass, he doesn't mince words and says it like it is

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Tough talk from Russia's Putin on U.S. missile shield -- latimes.com
Tough talk from Russia's Putin on U.S. missile shield
The prime minister says the planned defense system would upset the 'balance of forces.' He demands more details from Washington. Meanwhile, the U.S.-Russia nuclear deal has yet to be finalized.
By Megan K. Stack

1:55 PM PST, December 29, 2009

Reporting from Moscow

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir V. Putin called today for the development of new offensive weapons systems to "preserve a strategic balance" against the United States.

The Russian leader also demanded that Washington disclose more details of its planned missile defense deployments and technology. Putin warned that a powerful missile shield, which has long irritated a nervous Kremlin, could make the United States feel safe enough to become more aggressive in its dealings with the rest of the world.

"What preserved peace, even in Cold War conditions, was a balance of forces," Putin said.

The provocative comments from the man widely regarded as Russia's most powerful leader were emblematic of lingering fears and clashing worldviews as U.S. and Russian negotiators struggle to finalize a long-anticipated deal to cut nuclear stockpiles.

The nuclear deal, agreed upon in broad terms in April, has been trumpeted as the centerpiece of the Obama administration's drive to salvage a badly dented relationship with Moscow. Presidents Obama and Dmitry Medvedev agreed to cut their respective nuclear arsenals by as much as a third.

Despite vague but encouraging statements from officials on both sides, however, a final agreement remains elusive. The details weren't finalized by the time the previous Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty expired in early December. Nor do negotiators appear ready to finish the deal by year's end, as once expected. They packed up and went home the weekend before Christmas.

Nevertheless, American officials said today they were unfazed by Putin's comments and that they expected to finalize an agreement when negotiations resumed in January.

A U.S. official said: "We have made substantial progress in the negotiations and remain confident that when talks resume in January that we'll be able to finalize an agreement."

That confidence echoes the tone of Russian officials such as Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, who last week said the talks were "in the home stretch." Earlier in the month, Lavrov had griped that Americans were slowing down the negotiations.

The talks snagged on a smattering of disagreements over U.S. plans for missile defense and the mechanisms for verifying the destruction of nuclear arms.

Today, Putin was perhaps most damning in the dismissive tone he took toward the hard-chased agreement.

"You know, some think that [the treaty] is not needed at all," he said. "Some think it is."

While brushing aside the question of agreed nuclear regulations ("their presence is better than their absence"), Putin described the two countries as still needing to arm themselves in response to one another.

Russia has been deeply worried about U.S. missile-shield plans. Moscow has no plans to build -- and says it can't afford to develop -- a similar defensive system. The United States has shrugged off Russia's demand that negotiations over the defensive systems be lumped in with the arms reductions.

A U.S. decision to scrap planned interceptors and a radar base in Poland and the Czech Republic was widely seen as a concession to Russia's fiery objections to having the defense equipment positioned so close to its border. But Moscow showed little sign of being mollified. Russian leaders have been pressing ever since for information on what the United States will deploy instead.

Besides the fear of being challenged in what has long been Moscow's sphere of influence, the Kremlin is worried that U.S. missile defense may eventually become strong enough to neutralize Russia's nuclear arsenal. That would be a hard blow for a country that still dreams of recovering its superpower status despite the relative weakness of its conventional armed forces.

"A danger is created here that, having built up an umbrella against our offensive weapons systems, our partner may start feeling completely safe," Putin said. "The balance will be damaged, and then they will be doing what they want, and aggressiveness will immediately be stepped up in real politics and in the economy."

By adding his warnings to the mix, Putin deepens the impression that he still enjoys de facto veto power over strategic matters -- despite the fact that military and foreign affairs should fall to Medvedev.

Putin tapped Medvedev, his longtime underling, to succeed him as president when term limits forced him to relinquish Russia's top post. Now perched in the prime minister's office, Putin is still widely seen as the driving force in the Russian government. His return to the presidency is anticipated by many observers.

Cliffs:
-Russia needs more WMDs (or other sophisticated weaponory) because the U.S. can't be trusted to remain unchecked
-Unlike politicians in the U.S., Putin doesn't fuck around and mince words or play deception games to cover up military initiatives
-Thank you once again for making the world a safer place U.S. and A.
 
Not if you ask every country that posesses them they aren't

Tell me, how much respect/courtesy to countries who don't have nukes get, vs. those who do?

For nations like the US and Russia who can curb stomp the shit out of nearly everyone in a conventional war they are.
 
lets give millions to corporations to develop something that has little tactical or practical use these days and completely ignore the real threats.


yay!
 
-Unlike politicians in the U.S., Putin doesn't fuck around and mince words or play deception games to cover up military initiatives
-Thank you once again for making the world a safer place U.S. and A.

Sure he does, if he said what he was really thinking, he'd say he can't take over the world with an American missile shield in place, it deflects his plans for world domination. why do you think Russians love him so much, he is what they all want.
 
For nations like the US and Russia who can curb stomp the shit out of nearly everyone in a conventional war they are.
Oh really, why are we so concerned about Iran then?

Why were we so concerned about N. Korea? Remind me again.. how did Kim Jong Il's acquisition of nukes affect the whole U.S. -> N.Korea dynamic?

You obviously don't know what you're talking about or you wouldn't make such assinine statements.
 
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