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The swastika is a very old ideogram. The first such signs preserved to our days were found in the Euphrates-Tigris valley, and in some areas of the Indus valley. They seem to be more than 3,000 years old. Yet it was not until around the year 1000 B.C. that the swastika became a commonly used sign, first maybe in ancient Troy in the north west of today's Turkey.
The Sumerians seem to have used the swastika, but neither their successors the Babylonians and Assyrians, nor the Egyptians seem to have used it. Most other ancient cultures in Eurasia, however, did use it. Count Goblet d'Alviella (see the bibliography), who at the end of the last century conducted research in the distribution and migration of sacred symbols, put forth the theory that certain symbols were mutually exclusive, i.e. they could not appear in the same country or cultural sphere.
The swastika was used well before the birth of Christ in China, India, Japan, and Southern Europe. Whether it was also used that early in the Americas, however, is not known. There are no swastika-like signs on the oldest rock carvings there. Neither did the Mayans, the Incas, and the Aztecs use it. However, many of the Indian tribes in the southern parts of North America seem to have begun using the sign after the arrival of the first Spanish colonists. The swastika is mostly associated with Buddha in India, China, and Japan. In early Chinese symbolism
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was known as wan, and was a general superlative. In Japan it may have been a sign for the magnificent number 10,000.
In India according to d'Alviella, the word swastika is composed by the Sanskrit su = good, and asti = to be, with the suffix ka. The arms of the Indian swastika were angled in a clockwise direction (from the center).
The sign was common among the Hittites (in what is now Turkey), and in Greece from around 700 B.C., where it was freely used in decorations on ceramic pots, vases, coins, and buildings in the antiquity.
In the rest of Europe swastikas and swastika-like structures were used by the Celts. They did, however, not appear in the Nordic countries until well after the birth of Christ, and then they do not seem to have been common. They can be seen on. few runic stones (from around 1000 A.D.), often combined with another cross structure.
 
nip? I remember someone calling Mr. Miyagi a nip in the first Karate Kid, right before he broke their beer bottles with a chop.
 
Geck0 said:
And were well trained, obviously. There is a lot of bad shit done by all sorts of people in the world. Most of the Isrealies' actions don't make the news - they are no better than any other fundamentalist state.

That is what they are, you know. Try emigrating there and say you are a Christian.
I'm not only defending Jewish peoplem, but people of all races, religions, and genders. Well, not defending them, but sticking up for them when they're generalized as such.
 
Geck0 said:
God, they have some people trained really, really well.

"Don't say nothing bad about Jews, If you do they'll label you a nazi!!!!"

Another overused and tired word, closer to democrats than republicans, closer to socialism than capitalism. It's a good tool tho, or has been because it is a has - been.

What's up with them? I dunno, and I'm not particularly interested either. Let them live their lives and me mine.

But don't criticise them like people criticise christians, or you'll be a nazi!

Just my take.


Maybe I can help you understand why attacks on Jews might be taken more seriously than other races and religions such as christianity. 6 million jews were killed in the holocaust because they were jews. That was about 40% of the worldwide population at the time. Jews have been (violently) persecuted throughout history, including now, including in the US. Can you say that about christians? Another difference between the two religions is that Jews are a minority. About 13 million jews in the world, there are close to 2 billion christians.


Does it surprise you that jews might take something said against them as a threat? You might say this is the internet, how can you take anything seriously..just don't forget that many hate groups (of all kinds) are formed and depend on the internet to exist.

I responded in this thread because of anti-semitism I have seen in other threads in this forum. Aside from the kids that are trying to be funny and don't really know what they are talking about, I have seen plenty of serious anti-semite posts on related topics. Any kind of racism bothers me, but there is also a difference between name calling and a thought out racist argument. The ignorance makes me sick.
 
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