View Poll Results: [UKRAINE] whose side are you on ??
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RUSSIA: our boy, our friend, our best ally putin
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UKRAINE: some agricultural backwater
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VeteranXX Contributor
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Originally Posted by amRam
Reports coming in
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VeteranXX
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Originally Posted by HardDrive
It's surprising because it's basically a series of unforced errors in sequence that compromise their own info war. They push the Donbas narrative super hard internally, position their actions as peacekeeping, then don't actually even commit enough to achieve those strategic goals because they essentially planned to not encounter resistance. So instead of merely liberating the separatist regions OR quickly decapitating Ukraine's regime they're sending a bunch of Russian soldiers/materiel into the grinder so that they can get sanctioned and negotiate anyway. It's scatterbrained
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This is why I don't believe the whole "we're peacekeeping and fighting nazi's" any more than I do "Putin is Hitler and wants to restart the Soviet Union and the cold war" narratives.
Salt of the Earth people really aren't all that motivated to kill other salt of the Earth people without good reason. So you generally have to make things beyond black and white and resort to exaggerations. Hence, you're not just killing "other people", those people are "Hitler". You're not just risking your lives and the lives of your children for oil & gas or control over an economic zone, you are liberating a land from tyranny. We support the Ukrainians killing Russians over there, so we don't have to kill Russians over here.
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VeteranXX Contributor
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Reports coming in that Russian soldiers got LOST and ended up invading themselves.
**Not really but that's the type of **** the media is publishing.
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VeteranXX Contributor
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Originally Posted by Hellsfury
This is why I don't believe the whole "we're peacekeeping and fighting nazi's" any more than I do "Putin is Hitler and wants to restart the Soviet Union and the cold war" narratives.
Salt of the Earth people really aren't all that motivated to kill other salt of the Earth people without good reason. So you generally have to make things beyond black and white and resort to exaggerations. Hence, you're not just killing "other people", those people are "Hitler". You're not just risking your lives and the lives of your children for oil & gas or control over an economic zone, you are liberating a land from tyranny. We support the Ukrainians killing Russians over there, so we don't have to kill Russians over here.
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The part that gives "peacekeeping denazification" some credence is the fact that after the revolution, millions of easterners were left trapped in a regime they never approved of or voted for. Word is that they've been under heavy pressure both politically and militarily, and that the escalation of violence against them was broad and ruthless. I think this is an easy sell for the Russians, even if its only 50% true.
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VeteranXX Contributor
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Media is like:
OMG RUSSIANS USING NUKES!!!
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VeteranXX Contributor
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Can you guys access rt.com?
I got through on a VPN earlier, surprisingly muted coverage of the war.
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Sour++ Contributor
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posted
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Last edited by lemon; 02-27-2022 at 18:35..
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VeteranXX Contributor
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Some of those early strikes took out their internet/cell network. Stopping most people from sending out info.
That's why Elon is in the news saying that he enabled Starlink.
Elon Musk activates Starlink in Ukraine
There is a good chance the next round of stories that comes out of Russia is about a bunch of the people disappearing in the middle of the night while there is this media blackout occurring.
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VeteranXV Contributor
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lol like i said, these libtards are supporting neo-nazi ukraine
can't make this **** up
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VeteranXX Contributor
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Anyone else noticing a distinct lack of "fact checkers" these last 4 days? What happened to all these truth seekers? Taking a break after 2 years of COVID?
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Pooptruck++
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Nice to see Havavax enjoying a good about this ****.
What a guy.
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VeteranXX Contributor
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Wait - the first news that has really bummed me out:
Largest aircraft in the world destroyed at Ukrainian air base
NO Antonov AN-225 Mriya - say it ain't so!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sggQqdvqHs
RIP Mriya
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Last edited by Brasstax; 02-27-2022 at 19:08..
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VeteranXV Contributor
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Originally Posted by Mitchdubai
Nice to see Havavax enjoying a good about this ****.
What a guy.
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i'm not laughing at how they are treating black people in ukraine you dolt, i'm laughing at the idiot libtards here that follow their msm misinformation overlords blindly.
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Pooptruck++
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Ah yes of course.
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VeteranXX Contributor
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Originally Posted by Brasstax
Wait - the first news that has really bummed me out:
Largest aircraft in the world destroyed at Ukrainian air base
NO Antonov AN-225 Mriya - say it ain't so!
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Yep, it is so.
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