VeteranXX Contributor
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Originally Posted by samUwell
Can any of you produce something positive that the Federal Government has done - ever?
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Bounty will write you a report asap.
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VeteranXX
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Originally Posted by samUwell
Can any of you produce something positive that the Federal Government has done - ever?
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no FBI = no X-Files
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Love∞
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Originally Posted by havax
OH, so he's a 'criminal of epic proportion', but out of all of those crimes you think he did, you're only convinced of the alleged ones that this totally partisan hack committee just released. gotcha.
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Fine. But this is probably a waste of my time. Here's my top 5 along with evidence sources (you can check them yourself):
- Obstruction of justice: In the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, Trump was accused of obstructing justice by attempting to interfere with the investigation. This included firing FBI Director James Comey and asking intelligence community leaders to intervene in the investigation. Evidence can be found in the report by Robert Mueller, which outlines several instances of Trump's efforts to obstruct the investigation.
- Abuse of power: In 2019, Trump was impeached by the House for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. The abuse of power charge stemmed from efforts to ppressur Ukraine to investigate the Bidens. Trump held up military aid to Ukraine and a White House meeting with the Ukrainian president as leverage to pressure the Ukrainians to announce an investigation into the Bidens. Evidence is in the transcript of his call with Zelensky, in which he asks for a "favor" related to the Bidens, and in testimony from witnesses who participated in the efforts to pressure Ukraine.
- Violation of campaign finance laws: In 2018, Trump lawyer Michael Cohen pled guilty to violating campaign finance laws by arranging payments to two women -- both who claimed to have ****ed Trump (ewww) -- in order to keep them quiet during the campaign. Cohen admitted he made the payments at the direction of Trump and that they were intended to influence the outcome of the election. Evidence is Cohen's guilty plea and in the recordings of Cohen and Trump discussing said payments.
- Incitement of violence: On Jan. 6, Trump incited violence when a mob of his supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol in an attempt to disrupt the certification of the 2020 presidential election. He'd spent months baselessly claiming the election was stolen from him and encouraged his supporters to come to Washington to protest its certification. Trump was impeached by the House on a charge of incitement of insurrection in connection with the attack on the Capitol. Evidence can be found in his public statements and social media posts leading up to the attack, as well as in the accounts of those who participated in the attack. See the report.
- Tax evasion: In 2020, The New York Times revealed that he had paid little or no income tax for much of the past two decades. Their investigation also showed Trump had engaged in questionable tax schemes, including taking large deductions for consulting fees and business expenses that appeared personal in nature. Evidence: the documents obtained by The New York Times and in public records related to his finances - now available online.
There you go. Now go do some of your own legwork.
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VeteranXX
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Originally Posted by Fool
I have no desire to challenge your view that Trump is a criminal. My view is that every federal politician is, certainly corrupt and at the least hypocrites who never practice what they preach. What bothers me, however, is the severe irrationality that the pursuit of Trump has taken on and the impossibly low standards you're setting moving forward, because it suggests bad faith. I have my doubts that you'll apply those standards equally, regardless of political affiliation, because were you to do so you'd be calling for at least half of elected officials to be removed already.
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ya its almost like some people think that being a hypocrite is not as big a deal as staging a coup, its ****ing wild
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Love∞
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Originally Posted by amRam
Bounty will write you a report asap.
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I gave at the office, thanks.
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Love∞
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Originally Posted by Fool
You're right, being politically slanted doesn't mean he's not guilty, but if he's guilty there's also little reason to be politically slanted.
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The reason is habit.
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Love∞
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Originally Posted by lemontw
bounty are you being paid by the government to discuss this here or is this on your own time because I'd like to know if you're on the clock since we pay your salary and all
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I work so much OT unpaid, it's ridiculous. But I'm technically on leave right now.
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Love∞
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Originally Posted by Fool
I have no desire to challenge your view that Trump is a criminal. My view is that every federal politician is, certainly corrupt and at the least hypocrites who never practice what they preach. What bothers me, however, is the severe irrationality that the pursuit of Trump has taken on and the impossibly low standards you're setting moving forward, because it suggests bad faith. I have my doubts that you'll apply those standards equally, regardless of political affiliation, because were you to do so you'd be calling for at least half of elected officials to be removed already.
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I would prefer we remove MORE than half of all currently elected officials. But that's a separate conversation. And it has to do more with the damage caused by a lack of term limits rather than overt criminality.
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Whiny BitchX Contributor
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Originally Posted by Bounty
Fine. But this is probably a waste of my time. Here's my top 5 along with evidence sources (you can check them yourself):
- Obstruction of justice: In the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, Trump was accused of obstructing justice by attempting to interfere with the investigation. This included firing FBI Director James Comey and asking intelligence community leaders to intervene in the investigation. Evidence can be found in the report by Robert Mueller, which outlines several instances of Trump's efforts to obstruct the investigation.
- Abuse of power: In 2019, Trump was impeached by the House for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. The abuse of power charge stemmed from efforts to ppressur Ukraine to investigate the Bidens. Trump held up military aid to Ukraine and a White House meeting with the Ukrainian president as leverage to pressure the Ukrainians to announce an investigation into the Bidens. Evidence is in the transcript of his call with Zelensky, in which he asks for a "favor" related to the Bidens, and in testimony from witnesses who participated in the efforts to pressure Ukraine.
- Violation of campaign finance laws: In 2018, Trump lawyer Michael Cohen pled guilty to violating campaign finance laws by arranging payments to two women -- both who claimed to have ****ed Trump (ewww) -- in order to keep them quiet during the campaign. Cohen admitted he made the payments at the direction of Trump and that they were intended to influence the outcome of the election. Evidence is Cohen's guilty plea and in the recordings of Cohen and Trump discussing said payments.
- Incitement of violence: On Jan. 6, Trump incited violence when a mob of his supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol in an attempt to disrupt the certification of the 2020 presidential election. He'd spent months baselessly claiming the election was stolen from him and encouraged his supporters to come to Washington to protest its certification. Trump was impeached by the House on a charge of incitement of insurrection in connection with the attack on the Capitol. Evidence can be found in his public statements and social media posts leading up to the attack, as well as in the accounts of those who participated in the attack. See the report.
- Tax evasion: In 2020, The New York Times revealed that he had paid little or no income tax for much of the past two decades. Their investigation also showed Trump had engaged in questionable tax schemes, including taking large deductions for consulting fees and business expenses that appeared personal in nature. Evidence: the documents obtained by The New York Times and in public records related to his finances - now available online.
There you go. Now go do some of your own legwork.
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1. Neither charged nor convicted
2. Acquitted
3. Neither charged nor convicted
4. Neither charged nor convicted of incitement, and baseless claims are not criminal
5. Neither charged nor convicted, nor is paying not income tax specific evidence of tax evasion
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Love∞
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Originally Posted by samUwell
Can any of you produce something positive that the Federal Government has done - ever?
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How about the Interstate Highway System? The eradication of polio? Rescuing Texans from themselves at least once a year?
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Love∞
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Originally Posted by Fool
1. Neither charged nor convicted
2. Acquitted
3. Neither charged nor convicted
4. Neither charged nor convicted of incitement, and baseless claims are not criminal
5. Neither charged nor convicted, nor is paying not income tax specific evidence of tax evasion
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Charges are likely to come. RICO cases take years to work. But that's what's required when dealing with criminal enterprises of this scope.
You can decry the bias in the report's language, but based solely on the scope and veracity of witness testimony and documented evidence, there's simply too much smoke for there to not be a 9/11-sized fire raging underneath it.
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VeteranXV Contributor
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#2 is my favorite.
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The abuse of power charge stemmed from efforts to ppressur Ukraine to investigate the Bidens. Trump held up military aid to Ukraine and a White House meeting with the Ukrainian president as leverage to pressure the Ukrainians to announce an investigation into the Bidens.
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He has no problem with this impeachment, and he's also fine with biden pressuring ukraine to actually fire their head prosecutor or they aren't getting a billion dollars in aid. That's not abuse of power at all, right? Imagine if Trump had forced Zelensky to fire his head prosecutor or he's not getting military aid.
Completely ridiculous, and I just don't understand how they don't see it.
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VeteranXX
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Originally Posted by Bounty
Charges are likely to come. RICO cases take years to work. But that's what's required when dealing with criminal enterprises of this scope.
You can decry the bias in the report's language, but based solely on the scope and veracity of witness testimony and documented evidence, there's simply too much smoke for there to not be a 9/11-sized fire raging underneath it.
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the smoke is created by cyber ninjas hired by the globalist conspiracy
leave Trump alone
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VeteranXX
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Originally Posted by Fool
1. Neither charged nor convicted
2. Acquitted
3. Neither charged nor convicted
4. Neither charged nor convicted of incitement, and baseless claims are not criminal
5. Neither charged nor convicted, nor is paying not income tax specific evidence of tax evasion
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interesting, I haven't seen you post stuff like this about the accusations in Elon's Twitter dumps
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VeteranXX Contributor
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Originally Posted by Bounty
Charges are likely to come. RICO cases take years to work. But that's what's required when dealing with criminal enterprises of this scope.
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By 6/15 maybe?
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Whiny BitchX Contributor
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Originally Posted by Bounty
Charges are likely to come. RICO cases take years to work. But that's what's required when dealing with criminal enterprises of this scope.
You can decry the bias in the report's language, but based solely on the scope and veracity of witness testimony and documented evidence, there's simply too much smoke for there to not be a 9/11-sized fire raging underneath it.
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It's been almost 4 years since the Mueller report. If smoke constituted evidence, and there's as much of it as you say, then it does not take 4 years. It's a cope.
I doubt anyone in American knew that "Comforting an Insurrection" was a thing, nor that sitting on your couch watching TV would constitute it. I'd also like an explanation as to why being impeached for it is evidence you're guilty of it as the report claims, but being acquitted of it (a fact the report both omits and reframes) is not proof you're not guilty without the use of political bias.
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Whiny BitchX Contributor
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Originally Posted by Amadeus
interesting, I haven't seen you post stuff like this about the accusations in Elon's Twitter dumps
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I'm not even sure you know what you meant by this. What criminal accusations are in the twitter dumps?
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VeteranXX Contributor
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Bounty, how is the wife and kids? Hope your family is well and wish you and everyone else here a Merry Xmas and a nice holiday season.
Even if we can***8217;t change our minds on political crap, like it or not, TW is kinda family like I guess.
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VeteranXX Contributor
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Originally Posted by Bounty
Fine. But this is probably a waste of my time. Here's my top 5 along with evidence sources (you can check them yourself):
- Obstruction of justice: In the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, Trump was accused of obstructing justice by attempting to interfere with the investigation. This included firing FBI Director James Comey and asking intelligence community leaders to intervene in the investigation. Evidence can be found in the report by Robert Mueller, which outlines several instances of Trump's efforts to obstruct the investigation.
RussiaRussiaRussia PeePeeTapes SteeleBogusCrap
All began to disrupt his Presidency... It's been a coup from the start.
The NIAs are out of control and need to be fired; I would say prison time or worse.
- Abuse of power: In 2019, Trump was impeached by the House for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. The abuse of power charge stemmed from efforts to ppressur Ukraine to investigate the Bidens. Trump held up military aid to Ukraine and a White House meeting with the Ukrainian president as leverage to pressure the Ukrainians to announce an investigation into the Bidens. Evidence is in the transcript of his call with Zelensky, in which he asks for a "favor" related to the Bidens, and in testimony from witnesses who participated in the efforts to pressure Ukraine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--...i_Y&index=3&t=
You don't think this is important. I think this is important and so did President Trump. The laundry machine that is UKR needs to stop. If we had a real NIA....
- Violation of campaign finance laws: In 2018, Trump lawyer Michael Cohen pled guilty to violating campaign finance laws by arranging payments to two women -- both who claimed to have ****ed Trump (ewww) -- in order to keep them quiet during the campaign. Cohen admitted he made the payments at the direction of Trump and that they were intended to influence the outcome of the election. Evidence is Cohen's guilty plea and in the recordings of Cohen and Trump discussing said payments.
The ***** trap. Are you a *****?
- Incitement of violence: On Jan. 6, Trump incited violence when a mob of his supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol in an attempt to disrupt the certification of the 2020 presidential election. He'd spent months baselessly claiming the election was stolen from him and encouraged his supporters to come to Washington to protest its certification. Trump was impeached by the House on a charge of incitement of insurrection in connection with the attack on the Capitol. Evidence can be found in his public statements and social media posts leading up to the attack, as well as in the accounts of those who participated in the attack. See the report.
It was a Fedsurection plain and simple
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- Tax evasion: In 2020, The New York Times revealed that he had paid little or no income tax for much of the past two decades. Their investigation also showed Trump had engaged in questionable tax schemes, including taking large deductions for consulting fees and business expenses that appeared personal in nature. Evidence: the documents obtained by The New York Times and in public records related to his finances - now available online.
NEW YORK TIMES hahaahha give me a PBS or a BBC link next. The FED MSM is deep.
There you go. Now go do some of your own legwork.
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The United States has been taken over in a coup by the D.C. Administrative Overstate fueled by an alliance of Globalist money and useful idiots such as yourself.
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Fool going into awkward shill mode again, while pretending to be a moderate. Same people that said nothing or supported Benghazi investigation.
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