VeteranXV
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26662 - 10-01-2022, 06:26
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instead of linking infowars and banned videos. could you like just link to the article?
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VeteranXX Contributor
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26663 - 10-01-2022, 11:06
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Wow they work so hard not to show a category of no vaccine ever... Still mix them in with the partially unvaccinated. You do know why we won't hear very many statistics for quite a while comparing vaccinated at any level versus no vaccine at all.
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VeteranXX
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26664 - 10-01-2022, 11:10
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It still boggles my mind that your political affiliation determines your health choices today.
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VeteranXX Contributor
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26665 - 10-01-2022, 11:11
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VeteranXX
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26666 - 10-01-2022, 12:37
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VeteranXX
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26667 - 10-01-2022, 20:58
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VeteranXV
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26668 - 10-02-2022, 05:24
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Did you read this study?
"This large population-based cohort analysis provides evidence that the effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines against severe outcomes is high. We assessed effectiveness by comparing people who had been vaccinated with those who had not been vaccinated across all BMI categories. Vaccine protection was slightly lower in people with underweight, who were also less likely to be vaccinated. When investigating severe COVID-19 outcomes in the vaccinated cohort, people with underweight and those with obesity remained at greater risk of hospitalisation or death from COVID-19 than people who are a healthy weight, even after a second dose of the vaccine."
it's actually quite good evidence of the vaccine actually working to prevent hospitalizations and deaths.
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VeteranXX Contributor
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26669 - 10-02-2022, 11:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Denver
it's actually quite good evidence of the vaccine actually working to prevent hospitalizations and deaths.
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All 5 doses?
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VeteranXX
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26670 - 10-02-2022, 11:59
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Severed is way too into the vax
Let it go autist
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VeteranXV
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26671 - 10-02-2022, 12:40
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Originally Posted by Falhawk
Severed is way too into the vax
Let it go autist
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hes still *****ing about Obama being black lmao
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VeteranXX Contributor
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26672 - 10-02-2022, 14:13
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Originally Posted by Denver
Did you read this study?
"This large population-based cohort analysis provides evidence that the effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines against severe outcomes is high. We assessed effectiveness by comparing people who had been vaccinated with those who had not been vaccinated across all BMI categories. Vaccine protection was slightly lower in people with underweight, who were also less likely to be vaccinated. When investigating severe COVID-19 outcomes in the vaccinated cohort, people with underweight and those with obesity remained at greater risk of hospitalisation or death from COVID-19 than people who are a healthy weight, even after a second dose of the vaccine."
it's actually quite good evidence of the vaccine actually working to prevent hospitalizations and deaths.
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Which is why I linked the article from infowars that helps us to find where to look.
The study wasn't about this, but follow the supplemental appendix where data is presented and ...
https://www.thelancet.com/cms/10.101...d4b7e/mmc1.pdf
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The results for effectiveness against positive Covid test (i.e., reported infection), which were found buried away in the supplementary appendix, are shown below.
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...***8217;ve highlighted in yellow three key figures. The top two show that in the two weeks following the first jab individuals were three to four times more likely to test positive for Covid than their unvaccinated counterparts. This is further confirmation of the post-jab spike in infections that has often been noted and which there is evidence is a result of the vaccination temporarily reducing immunity.
The third figure shows that two weeks or more after the second jab ***8211; which during 2021 was regarded as ***8216;fully vaccinated***8217; ***8211; individuals were 44% more likely to be infected than their unvaccinated counterparts. This is negative vaccine effectiveness (where infections are higher in the vaccinated than the unvaccinated) of minus-44%. This negative effectiveness is in line with what was seen in the raw data from England at the time and also in studies from other countries, but contradicts the Government***8217;s official estimates, which claimed effectiveness to be 60-85% against Delta infection. The new study indicates that the negative effectiveness was not just a result of confounding factors or a ***8216;catch-up***8217; effect, where the vaccinated have lower infection rates initially then higher infection rates as the effect of the vaccine wears off, as some have claimed.
Acknowledging the figures, the authors write: ***8220;Surprisingly, we observed a higher risk of test positivity after vaccination with one or two doses across all BMI groups, which is contrary to evidence reported by the U.K. ONS.***8221; What they don***8217;t mention is that it is fully in line with data from the UKHSA, nor that the ONS is known to overestimate infection rates in the unvaccinated because it underestimates the population ***8211; the ONS puts the unvaccinated adult population at 8% whereas the NIMS database puts it at 19% (and surveys higher still at 26%) The authors state that the ***8220;hospital admission and death outcomes were considered more robust outcomes than infection***8221; owing to ***8220;variability in testing***8221; and a potentially ***8220;high proportion of asymptomatic infections***8221;. The implication is that unvaccinated people were less likely to get tested when infected, suppressing the positive test rate in the unvaccinated. No evidence is provided for this claim, however, nor any attempt made to quantify the possible size of the difference.
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and there's more...but find someone else to spoon feed you
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VeteranXX Contributor
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26673 - 10-03-2022, 11:47
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Originally Posted by Falhawk
Severed is way too into the vax
Let it go autist
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Perhaps if ****s in government/pharm/media and their supporters hadn't been so eager to force untested **** up our asses, fire us, ("dey took r jobs"), hunt us down, punish us, there would not be this kind of backlash. See, some **** sticks. And that **** sticks around a long time. If someone attacks another - it's for life. That's the way it is. So, think about it before attacking/supporting the attackers. Sev is just vocal about it. There are many who are not saying anything but are just as pissed off about the entire thing.
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VeteranXX
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26674 - 10-03-2022, 14:34
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What backlash?
Y'all just sat around, virtue signaled & complained. Unless you attended some kind of protest, quit your job, or performed some kind of activism, you're complicit.
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VeteranXX Contributor
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26676 - 10-03-2022, 16:57
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Originally Posted by Lozza Mate
What backlash?
Y'all just sat around, virtue signaled & complained. Unless you attended some kind of protest, quit your job, or performed some kind of activism, you're complicit.
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And y'all just bent over and injected yourselves with garbage because politicians told you to
Edit: actually no, because the ruling class forced you to
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VeteranXX
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26677 - 10-03-2022, 17:53
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lmao amram keep digging bud
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VeteranXV Contributor
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26678 - 10-03-2022, 17:57
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Originally Posted by Chaol

lmao amram keep digging bud
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LOL you're so ****ing stupid
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VeteranXX Contributor
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26679 - 10-03-2022, 18:42
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imagine posting those charts thinking you're making a point 
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VeteranXV Contributor
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26680 - 10-03-2022, 18:54
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Originally Posted by Chaol
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Looks like Biden was having the Republicans killed off.
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