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Originally Posted by HardDrive
idk you can feel however you want about this george floyd **** but I feel like if your job is to apprehend someone alive for potentially counterfeiting and the end result is a video of you kneeling into a prone, handcuffed dude as he ODs and a murder 3 trial maybe you're a bit of a liability to whatever employer
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Yeah, doing department approved methods to control suspected criminals is warranting criminal charges.
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Originally Posted by Gandalf
Yeah, doing department approved methods to control suspected criminals is warranting criminal charges.
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So either he's not competent enough to know when he's in control of a situation or doesn't care? It doesn't actually make it better
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Originally Posted by Gandalf
Yeah, doing department approved methods to control suspected criminals is warranting criminal charges.
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...and if he was following those department approved methods, then that would presumably be determined in the trial. If that is the case, and those methods are found to have caused/significantly contributed to the death of an innocent man (presumption of innocence and all), then that needs to be determined and those methods need to change.
Cops aren't supposed to kill people, innocent or guilty.
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Originally Posted by Gandalf
The idiots on here thinking this cop should at the very least lose his job are the same rush to judgement ****tards claiming that George Zimmerman killed travon Martin in cold blood.
Your opinion is ****.
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He already lost his job. He was fired. His own supervisor testified against him too.
We shall see what happens. I always bet on the money. Defense has a lot of money, so I think he will walk. But he will never be a cop again.
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Originally Posted by Gandalf
Yeah, doing department approved methods to control suspected criminals is warranting criminal charges.
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What do you think his training says about what to do when a suspect becomes unresponsive? For1 minute? 3 minutes? For 9 mins?
Do you think kneeling on his upper back lower head but definitely not the neck area on an unresponsive suspect is an approved method?
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Originally Posted by Hellsfury
Floyd had 4 times the lethal dose of Fentanyl in his system.
Do you know what the primary threat from Fentanyl overdose is?
Let's ask wikipedia;
So you have testimony that Floyd was high when he was in the store. You have his Drug Dealer sitting in the car next to him. You have reports of Floyd appearing to try and swallow something when confronted by one of the Officers. You have the FBI finding pill residue with Floyd's DNA on it in the Police Cruiser.
Symptoms of Fentanyl poisoning include (but not limited too);- dizziness
- nervousness
- hallucinations
- anxiety
- shortness of breath
- hypoventilation
- apnoea
All of this is visible on camera, before anyone puts their knee on him.
But the knee on the back of his neck is the "smoking gun" that proves what killed him.
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VeteranXX
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Originally Posted by Mr Jimmy Pop
What do you think his training says about what to do when a suspect becomes unresponsive? For1 minute? 3 minutes? For 9 mins?
Do you think kneeling on his upper back lower head but definitely not the neck area on an unresponsive suspect is an approved method?
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the trainer testified yesterday that he himself has restrained a suspect up until emt arrived.
regardless of the defense pushing for uncertainty for the cause of death, the prosecution only needs to prove that chauvins actions "significantly contributed to death".
even if a juror concludes floyd died of an OD, they can still find him guilty.
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VeteranXX
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Is it time to invest in lighter fluid and bricks yet?
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Originally Posted by Mr Jimmy Pop
What do you think his training says about what to do when a suspect becomes unresponsive? For1 minute? 3 minutes? For 9 mins?
Do you think kneeling on his upper back lower head but definitely not the neck area on an unresponsive suspect is an approved method?
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It doesn't matter what I think, especially in this day and age of media bias and slanted reporting. What matters are the facts.
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Originally Posted by Mr Jimmy Pop
He already lost his job. He was fired. His own supervisor testified against him too.
We shall see what happens. I always bet on the money. Defense has a lot of money, so I think he will walk. But he will never be a cop again.
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And if he's proven innocent, he'll never have to work again, because he'll file a wrongful termination lawsuit against the department and the city, and will make millions.
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Originally Posted by Gandalf
And if he's proven innocent, he'll never have to work again, because he'll file a wrongful termination lawsuit against the department and the city, and will make millions.
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key reminders
1) you're a creationist
2) people aren't "proven innocent"
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Originally Posted by Gandalf
It doesn't matter what I think, especially in this day and age of media bias and slanted reporting. What matters are the facts.
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I’d like to agree with you, but facts don’t always determine outcome. Money has more bearing in court than facts.
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no 1 gives a **** about facts bro politics is the wwe and this is the rumble in the jungle
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Originally Posted by Mr Jimmy Pop
I’d like to agree with you, but facts don’t always determine outcome. Money has more bearing in court than facts.
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yeah not really.
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Originally Posted by JuggerNaught
yeah not really.
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Explain OJ then.
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Originally Posted by Brasstax
This trial needs a Johnnie Cochran closer.
"If he used the knee, he can't go free"
or some ****.
America needs a catch-phrase for real justice to occur.
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If he can't breathe you must seeth
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Originally Posted by Mr Jimmy Pop
Explain OJ then.
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Lack of evidence. After all was said and done, oj boiled down to him not liking his ex-wife and a glove that he couldn't shove his hand into. No witnesses, no real evidence. The way that money helped was he was about to secure superior lawyers. Having a stack of cash in court is irrelevant if your lawyers suck
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Money buys good lawyers with a team of lawyers behind them to use any number of tactics to discredit actual evidence like DNA at the scene and Bruno Mali shoes he said he didn***8217;t own yet he had pictures of him wearing them.
So yes, money can buy innocence where lack of you negotiate guilt. That is our justice system
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VeteranXX Contributor
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Originally Posted by Mr Jimmy Pop
Money buys good lawyers with a team of lawyers behind them to use any number of tactics to discredit actual evidence like DNA at the scene and Bruno Mali shoes he said he didn’t own yet he had pictures of him wearing them.
So yes, money can buy innocence where lack of you negotiate guilt. That is our justice system
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If the evidence shows you were not-guilty, money didn't buy your innocence.
If you were guilty could you have thrown that money at lawyers and got off? No.
If you didn't have stacks of cash but happened to find a really good lawyer that worked for cheap and found the same information, would you be found not guilty? Yes.
So money doesn't /= innocence. Good legal council does.
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