ITT: I will answer questions about military equipment/history.
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I meant the silly radar dome on an oil platform, however the transport falls into the same category
there's a lot to be said for the 'naked' finish on an airframe.
Do you have any idea how much the paint job on an aircraft that size weighs?
Do you have any idea how much the paint job on an aircraft that size weighs?
Do you wish to know the irony in that x-band radar platform is? The actual "oil rig" platform was built by the russians
Esteban_Villa
Veteran XV
have you ever read the forgotten soldier?
whats your opinion on the german struggle to gtfo out of the Memel Front when their navy was getting shit on and the soviets were slowly wearing them down, but not too quickly because their main armies had bypassed the pocket in order to get Prague and Berlin? thats gottta be a pretty shitty feeling and just any thoughts you had on it would be appreciated
whats your opinion on the german struggle to gtfo out of the Memel Front when their navy was getting shit on and the soviets were slowly wearing them down, but not too quickly because their main armies had bypassed the pocket in order to get Prague and Berlin? thats gottta be a pretty shitty feeling and just any thoughts you had on it would be appreciated
Designed by Norwegians, built by russians
Are you serious?
As long as the US could reproduce the jp5 to keep the jets flying, that one CV would have ended the war with in the year
The fuel, the bombs, the missiles... I think you're seriously over-estimating what one carrier could do, especially in the day and age of where the Japs were willing to fling manpower at steel.
You're correct. I know absolutely nothing about aerial combat tactics. I have everyone else fooled, though--only people with special nationalistic glasses can see the truth behind my posts.
From this thread we have learned that it is 100% impossible to compare, for example, the F6F and A6M because one of the pair required energy tactics and the other turn. The fact that they both did battle and that their combat records and engineering principles can be examined is irrelevant because one couldn't turn as well as the other.
Kura knows his shit. I play golf with a bigwig at Boeing who works on the Osprey, he said the military fucking loves them...regardless of their "crash-tastic" history.
My friend who just came back from Iraq said those marines fucking love them, and what marines want marines get.
To add to this:
Last summer I went to the Boeing plant in Philidelphia that built the Osprey. It is still alive and kicking and the most recent version (might be H or I..or I could be confusing those with the new chinooks which I also got to check out). They have fixed almost all of the issues that they were having with them. All of the branches are interested in them in some way and they are still getting massive amounts of funding. The project is hardly "failed" or "dead" by any means.
PS the new *H-47's (H, I, or J's can't remember now?) are bad ass. They have new technology that allows them to automagically 'wave off' if you will if something goes wrong during a landing (visibility, something happening on the ground, ect). With the press of a button the aircraft will take back off (coordinating the cyclic, collective, pedals, and throttle). Which helps if the pilot is injured or disoriented during a landing/pickup/drop-off/ect.
Thanx dude, that's really interesting. Was this info in a personal journal (I heard that the president at the time had one) that was written that explains these backroom machinations?
The only thing you are correct on would be the missiles, the dumb bombs that were used could be retro fitted and they would need to set up to make ammo for the tomcats guns which would be more then enough to take out anything in the air.
The radar sonar and anti sub technology on that ship was insane compared to what was available at the time. If that scenario actually took place, they could have launched 15-20 planes to intercept the incoming japs all the while launching another 15-20 planes to go sink the jap carriers. That would have taken place in 1 day with minimal US losses if any.
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#1: You aren't sinking a ship (especially during WW2. When they were actually heavily armored) with 20mm. The M61 would be useless against anything but perhaps a DD or DDE.
#2: The F-14 only carried A2A missiles, so it has zero capacity to engage surface targets at standoff range.
#3: The "precision weapons" that the F-14 could carry (namely JDAMs and Paveways) would be utterly useless since they rely upon GPS (which didn't exist) or laser guidance (which would be impossible to utilize since there'd be nobody to paint a target.)
#4: All of this essentially means that an F-14 in this retarded scenario would be confined to using the exact same tactics that TBDs and SDBs used at the time (I.E., dumb bombs from low altitude at relatively low speeds.) And it's pretty clear that people don't have a clear conception of just how many dozens of pounds of AAA fire a CV battlegroup can put out every second--a single CV alone is going to generally have close to 30 larger caliber (~25-40mm) AA weapons and possibly dozens of smaller caliber (.50) mounts. Couple that with flak and the fact that every ship in the group is similarly armed and you begin to understand why flying a torpedo bomber in WW2 was all but suicidal.
And if you want to hit a ship, you'd have to get in range of all of that.
And when thousands of rounds are flying past you a second, some of them are going to hit.
They'd be far better employed for recon. Their radar and speed would actually enable them to make a real contribution in that role. Certainly a better use than sending them flying through curtains of lead to be bomb trucks.
#1: You aren't sinking a ship (especially during WW2. When they were actually heavily armored) with 20mm. The M61 would be useless against anything but perhaps a DD or DDE.
#2: The F-14 only carried A2A missiles, so it has zero capacity to engage surface targets at standoff range.
#3: The "precision weapons" that the F-14 could carry (namely JDAMs and Paveways) would be utterly useless since they rely upon GPS (which didn't exist) or laser guidance (which would be impossible to utilize since there'd be nobody to paint a target.)
#4: All of this essentially means that an F-14 in this retarded scenario would be confined to using the exact same tactics that TBDs and SDBs used at the time (I.E., dumb bombs from low altitude at relatively low speeds.) And it's pretty clear that people don't have a clear conception of just how many dozens of pounds of AAA fire a CV battlegroup can put out every second--a single CV alone is going to generally have close to 30 larger caliber (~25-40mm) AA weapons and possibly dozens of smaller caliber (.50) mounts. Couple that with flak and the fact that every ship in the group is similarly armed and you begin to understand why flying a torpedo bomber in WW2 was all but suicidal.
And if you want to hit a ship, you'd have to get in range of all of that.
And when thousands of rounds are flying past you a second, some of them are going to hit.
They'd be far better employed for recon. Their radar and speed would actually enable them to make a real contribution in that role. Certainly a better use than sending them flying through curtains of lead to be bomb trucks.