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41 - 10-16-2015, 08:29
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I disagree. If anyone has an opinion based on misleading / false info, the person or people listening has / have the Right to walk away from it and the opinion falls on deaf ears. Stupid people (like goshin) will exist regardless and isn't the problem with Freedom.
The problem is stupid people can't be ignored, because they are the majority.

The problem is that stupid people allow elections to focus on secondary issues. Gay marriage, planned parenthood? Most of this stuff is at the state level anyway. This election should be about the economy and the ****storm mess in the middle east.
 
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but to be fair....bernie is real good on internet and media censorship from what i can see in this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjmEGmeZYoI

citizens united, view on Fed, now on protecting internet and tv from censorship

i have more i like about him than Trump right now....ugghhh
 
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The problem is stupid people can't be ignored, because they are the majority.

The problem is that stupid people allow elections to focus on secondary issues. Gay marriage, planned parenthood? Most of this stuff is at the state level anyway. This election should be about the economy and the ****storm mess in the middle east.
Well, yes and no. It's up to you to decide if you want listen to stupid people regardless if they are the majority (or minority) or not. Example: I clearly reject the notion that lefties are the alleged magical majority and absolutely have no doubt their ideology is dog**** at best.

Gay "rights" and other social engineering issues are just that: engineered to frame the National debate (as federal law trumps State's Rights if they pass the law first given the Supremacy clause) in the favor of the left despite the fact we have far more pressing issues, such as our economy. It's one the primary reasons why the left hates trump because he managed to seize the initiative from the democratic socialists on issues for this election as it currently stands.

Imo, the job of the fed gvt is to preserve the Union, promote economic policies that are not based on wealth redistribution, and defend the Nation, not sweat every special interest out there -seems we can agree to that.

This creates a paradox for me since I want minimal fed gvt in favor of the States, but do not want the States to go ape**** with their own laws and smother us as the fed gvt does.
 
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We could also reinstate the Fairness Doctrine, where opposing points of view must be presented in editorial commentary.
Some bureaucrat judging the content of a supposed adversarial media. lol

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, they just restore sanity to your living room. Ffs
If your living room is having a problem, you can turn off your tv. But that isnt your problem is it? You are concerned with what everyone else is doing. Why dont you just piss off?
 
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I'll piss on you
 
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Imo, the job of the fed gvt is to preserve the Union, promote economic policies that are not based on wealth redistribution, and defend the Nation, not sweat every special interest out there -seems we can agree to that.
Exactly...and oddly enough the fed isn't preserving the union. promoting policies to help the states interact better.....but doing the exact opposite of that.

from immigration to marijuana.....from monetary policy to absurd regulatory issues....they are stressing the states to the point of succession and continue full speed ahead not caring one iota

same as the EU....and they are about to learn the lessons of the straw that breaks the camels back first hand here soon.
 
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Exactly...and oddly enough the fed isn't preserving the union. promoting policies to help the states interact better.....but doing the exact opposite of that.

from immigration to marijuana.....from monetary policy to absurd regulatory issues....they are stressing the states to the point of succession and continue full speed ahead not caring one iota

same as the EU....and they are about to learn the lessons of the straw that breaks the camels back first hand here soon.
The statists know this as well and they dont care. My impression is that they are going all out to change the trajectory of this Nation towards western european 'democratic socialism' (an oxymoron). As long as they put their people in key areas: gvt, media, and education... they can implement these changes through incrementalism. Slowly boiling the frog.

The interesting thing is that left had their cultural revolution (fueled by commies / socialists) in the 60's and fear that the same will happen once they have become the status quo. This is why gun control is so important to them.
 
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Putting some limits on hatespeach would go a long way in reducing mental illness in this country. Sarah Palin still reverberates through the gun toting schizophrenics who thinks Obama is coming to take 500 million god damn guns away from them.
yea, ****ing hatespeach
 
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... The interesting thing is that left had their cultural revolution (fueled by commies / socialists) in the 60's and fear that the same will happen once they have become the status quo. This is why gun control is so important to them.
Perhaps the "flower power" generation of the 60's was just a media contrivance? Since then we've seen them rewarded handsomely:

lower taxes on the rich
reduced corporate and capital taxes
a free trade "jobs for someone else" program
borrowed money to pay itself pensions


Maybe less of a "flower power" generation than a straight up "me first and only" generation. Yet they complain about the new generation "expecting everything to be handed to them." :/
 
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WHO HATESPEACHES

PEACHES R GOOD
 
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i can't wait for uncle bernie to come in and tell us all how much we're allowed to earn each year

soon we'll be queuing up to get into the gulag
 
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i can't wait for uncle bernie to come in and tell us all how much we're allowed to earn each year

soon we'll be queuing up to get into the gulag
No bread for you this week, citizen!
 
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Papers, please
 
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stressing the states to the point of succession
PERHAPS U MEAN SECESSION
 
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No way. He obviously means they're going to get so pissed off that they succeed out of spite.
 
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politicians are scum who will say ANYTHING in order to get elected

it's that simple
 
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PERHAPS U MEAN SECESSION
thank u lemon...i did

u always there +++

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No way. He obviously means they're going to get so pissed off that they succeed out of spite.
lol

 
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Food for thought:

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Bernie Sanders’ utopia needs fixing.

The Denmark that the Democratic Party candidate wants the U.S. to emulate is taking a long, critical look at its welfare model as it decides which bits to scale back.

A government commission now says Denmark needs to cut jobless benefits for graduates as part of a series of tweaks to keep other, more basic welfare services affordable. It follows a push by the previous administration -- a Social Democrat-led coalition that was ousted in June -- that included the introduction of means-testing to limit Danes’ access to state support.
“Welfare is under pressure in Denmark,” Bente Sorgenfrey, a member of the government commission and head of the country’s second-largest trade union, FTF, said in an interview on Monday. “We’re experiencing that all over the place since the crisis, and the absence of funding is putting pressure on payouts.”

Successive Danish governments have pointed to the need for cuts to a system they say grew too bloated in previous decades. Meanwhile economic growth has remained weak as the world’s most indebted households focus on paying back creditors. Denmark’s economy expanded a quarterly 0.5 percent on average between 1991 and 2008. Since then, it’s contracted 0.1 percent per quarter, on average, according to statistics office data.
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Hmmmmm... a system that is too bloated? Say it isn't so. How can that be?
 
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Paid maternity leave would be pretty darn sweet, though.
 
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Exponential growth of entitled kids that don't want to work will ruin us all.
 
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