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41 - 05-07-2010, 14:23
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...Worst offenders of patent idiocy, compared to anybody, using any metric.
Jesus @ that Rush quote...
 
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There are a lot of points to address so please excuse the excessive use of quotes. It only serves to help me break it down to where I can address each point while being distracted with work at the same time...

Also as a disclaimer let me just state that I am a firm believer in the Republicans AND the Democrats. We need both for our system to work, although more would be better. I believe that America needs both.


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Worst offenders of what? Compared to who? By what metric? Not trying to defend them, I am honestly curious because I don't watch Fox News, at least not regularly.
The worst offenders of misinformation. I admit my statement is purely subjective and is just my opinion on the matter. I hear MSNBC slants hard the other direction but I hardly ever see their programming.

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And hypocritical in what ways? If you mean by view point, just about everything I watch is hypocritical to some degree. You just can't have 24 hours of news, with dozens of reporters, hosts, interviews, with out coming askew of your own talking points somewhere down the line. Like I said, genuinely curious.
Hypocritical in the fact that they represent themselves to be a fair and balanced news source. Most of their programming is not news, it is political commentary. Seriously, they admit this themselves. All their hit shows with those smashing ratings are NOT their news programming. Does this stop them from throwing their "FOX News: Fair and Balanced" logo in the bottom corner of the screen during then Sean Hannity or Glenn Beck shows? Nope. I know most people here can tell when they watch those shows, what they really are. However, there are many impressionable people in this country who get buy into the deception.

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I don't personally see Fox as being any worse than other companies in these ways, there has just been a major backlash against the conservative viewpoint, which puts conservative media in the cross hairs more.
It is just an opinion on who is worse but I believe that this "conservative backlash" is just something that FOX News actually talks about and perpetuates. Sort of like a defense mechanism. Hell the term itself is a huge talking point for them.

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And IMO it isn't the immediacy of the news, it is the companies trying to spin it one way or the other to fit their viewpoint. If they just reported the facts of the matter without opinion or editorializing, we wouldn't run into a lot the problems we have now.
If they did this then they would all be saying the same thing!



CLIFFS:

Honestly this is my view of the major 3 news sources

MSNBC - Hardly ever watch them thus no opinion
CNN - Retarded sources. Seems that Facebook & Twitter are major stake holders now.
FOX News - Deceptive
 
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43 - 05-07-2010, 14:47
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they're just bitter because Fox News crushes the others in ratings.
OK those crushing numbers are not their news programs, they are their commentary programs. Their top 3 rated shows are...
  • The O’Reilly Factor
  • Glenn Beck
  • Hannity
 
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44 - 05-07-2010, 14:52
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Another "hate fox news because they crush everything I watch" thread, cool
 
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45 - 05-07-2010, 14:53
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PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT I BELIEVE IN, WHAT A BUNCH OF ****ING WEIRDOS!
 
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46 - 05-07-2010, 14:53
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remember when fox news tried to clone the daily show?

 
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no, sorry. Remember when Glenn Beck ****s the daily show in the ass with his ratings?
 
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48 - 05-07-2010, 14:55
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the least credible major network news....and the right eats it up....
come on

CNN and MSNBC are just as bad or worse.

if you are a limp wristed purple liberal your fairy mind naturally hates FOX
 
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The 1/2 Hour News Hour - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

so bad
 
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remember when fox news tried to clone the daily show?

Even better... did you see the Daily Show parody of Glenn Beck?

Best ****ing thing I have seen in a long time!
 
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51 - 05-07-2010, 14:57
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OK those crushing numbers are not their news programs, they are their commentary programs. Their top 3 rated shows are...
  • The O’Reilly Factor
  • Glenn Beck
  • Hannity
i wasn' aware that they had any 'news' programs.

i thought it was all commentary.

that doesn't change the fact that Fox News is killing them all in ratings.
 
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52 - 05-07-2010, 15:02
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i wasn' aware that they had any 'news' programs.

i thought it was all commentary.

that doesn't change the fact that Fox News is killing them all in ratings.
and non-news channels kill all those channels in ratings so I guess the people are voting to not care

plus I'm fairly certain that nightline, dateline, and 60 minutes all kick the **** out of fox news
 
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53 - 05-07-2010, 15:03
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MSNBC and CNN has commentary they just ****ing suck at it. Just like they suck at radio but now they cry for fair time on the radio.

When you're a liberal and you suck cry about and hope someone will give you the ratings and air time.

Just like Ed Shultz calling for Socialism in radio. How sad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULMdDA37Zq4
 
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no, sorry. Remember when Glenn Beck ****s the daily show in the ass with his ratings?
Remember when Glenn Beck's rants made a goddamn bit of sense?

 Me neither 
 
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Remember when Glenn Beck's rants made a goddamn bit of sense?

 Me neither 
ok.
 
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and non-news channels kill all those channels in ratings so I guess the people are voting to not care

plus I'm fairly certain that nightline, dateline, and 60 minutes all kick the **** out of fox news
all cable news ratings are child's play compared to network news.
 
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and non-news channels kill all those channels in ratings so I guess the people are voting to not care

plus I'm fairly certain that nightline, dateline, and 60 minutes all kick the **** out of fox news
**** it doesnt matter anyway. I love watching you queers cry about fox's ratings.
 
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Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for April 28, 2010


P2+ Total Day
FNC ***8211; 1,124,000 viewers
CNN ***8211; 380,000 viewers
MSNBC ***8211; 442,000 viewers
CNBC ***8211; 212,000 viewers
HLN ***8211; 312,000 viewers

P2+ Prime Time
FNC ***8211; 2,069,000 viewers
CNN ***8211; 637,000 viewers
MSNBC ***8211;933,000 viewers
CNBC ***8211; 215,000 viewers
HLN ***8211;717,000 viewers

25-54 Total Day
FNC ***8211;293,000 viewers
CNN ***8211;122,000 viewers
MSNBC ***8211;136,000 viewers
CNBC ***8211; 62,000 viewers
HLN ***8211; 143,000 viewers

25-54 Prime Time
FNC ***8211; 537,000 viewers
CNN ***8211; 164,000 viewers
MSNBC ***8211;242,000 viewers
CNBC ***8211; 101,000 viewers
HLN ***8211; 261,000 viewers

35-64 Total Day
FNC ***8211; 540,000 viewers
CNN ***8211; 182,000 viewers
MSNBC 212,000 viewers
CNBC ***8211; 98,000 viewers
HLN ***8211; 172,000 viewers

35-64 Prime Time
FNC ***8211;980,000 viewers
CNN ***8211; 246,000 viewers
MSNBC ***8211;443,000 viewers
CNBC ***8211; 131,000 viewers
HLN ***8211;352,000 viewers

Morning programs (6:00AM-9:00AM) P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
FOX & Friends- 993,000 viewers (282,000) (521,000)
American Morning- 283,000 viewers (121,000) (153,000)
Morning Joe- 433,000 viewers (147,000) (231,000)
Squawk Box- 207,000 viewers (60,000) (89,000)
Morning Express w/ Meade- 291,000 viewers (184,000) (214,000)

5PM ***8211; P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Glenn Beck ***8211; 2,262,000 viewers (689,000) (1,060,000)
Situation Room***8212;543,000 viewers (141,000) (268,000)
Hardball w/ C. Matthews ***8211; 523,000 viewers (122,000) (218,000)
Fast Money ***8211; 207,000 viewers (53,000) (91,000)
Showbiz Tonight ***8212;181,000 viewers (73,000) (93,000)

6PM ***8211; P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Special Report w/ Bret Baier ***8211; 1,906,000 viewers (447,000) (870,000)
Situation Room***8212;405,000 viewers (127,000) (172,000)
Ed Show ***8212;656,000 viewers (206,000) (342,000)
Mad Money ***8212;149,000 viewers (a scratch w/41,000) (76,000)
Prime News ***8211; 171,000 viewers (67,000) (87,000)

7PM ***8211; P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
The Fox Report w/ Shep ***8211; 1,570,000 viewers (399,000) (726,000)
John King USA ***8211; 373,000 viewers (129,000) (173,000)
Hardball w/ C. Matthews ***8211; 703,000 viewers (218,000) (305,000)
Kudlow Report ***8211;135,000 viewers (a scratch w/39,000) (61,000)
Issues ***8211; 407,000 viewers (158,000) (201,000)

8PM ***8211; P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
The O***8217;Reilly Factor ***8211; 2,577,000 viewers (572,000) (1,121,000)
Campbell Brown ***8211; 464,000 viewers (129,000) (176,000)
Countdown w/ K. Olbermann ***8211; 1,143,000 viewers (312,000) (568,000)
American Greed ***8211; 160,000 viewers (62,000) (90,000)
Nancy Grace ***8211; 863,000 viewers (248,000) (418,000)

9 PM ***8211; P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Hannity ***8211; 1,832,000 viewers (488,000) (877,000)
Larry King Live ***8212;806,000 viewers (200,000) (309,000)
Rachel Maddow Show ***8212;1,009,000 viewers (257,000) (454,000)
Case Against Goldman (American Greed?) ***8212; 256,000 viewers (128,000) (164,000)
Joy Behar ***8211; 690,000 viewers (226,000) (308,000)

10 PM P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
On the Record w/ Greta***8212;1,797,000 viewers (550,000) (940,000)
Anderson Cooper 360 ***8212; 641,000 viewers (164,000) (254,000)
Countdown w/ K. Olbermann ***8211; 644,000 viewers (157,000) (303,000)
American Greed ***8211; 230,000 viewers (114,000) (139,000)
Nancy Grace ***8211;636,000 viewers (319,000) (351,000)

11 PM P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
The O***8217;Reilly Factor ***8211; 1,195,000 viewers (278,000) (643,000)
Anderson Cooper 360 ***8211; 367,000 viewers (106,000) (193,000)
Rachel Maddow Show ***8212;474,000 viewers (156,000) (248,000)
Mad Money ***8211; a scratch w/91,000 viewers (a scratch w/50,000) (54,000)
Showbiz Tonight***8211; 456,000 viewers (234,000) (253,000)



anderson cooper's doing a good job compared to the O'Reilly Factor.
 
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59 - 05-07-2010, 15:21
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**** it doesnt matter anyway. I love watching you queers cry about fox's ratings.
it doesnt matter and yet you posted a bunch of text for their ratings.

 
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Remember when Glenn Beck Cried?
 
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