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Hrm... maybe I'm not explaining myself well enough.

There are comparatively few Roman technological inventions if you look at the brilliance and ingenuity of the Greeks, Muslims, Asians, etc, because the Roman system - built entirely on slave labor - wasn't very encouraging to developing technology. The Romans didn't need to come up with more efficient ways of doing things, the Romans didn't need to figure out a way to get two guys to do a job that twenty guys were doing. For the Romans, the solution to many problems was to simply throw more slave labor at it - a resource they had in abundance.

But like I said they weren't stupid... and they ****in conquered everybody... so they assimilated all the different technologies, culture, religions, etc into the Empire.

It's a historical fact that there aren't many inventions that can be credited to the Romans themselves.
 
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Retard?

The Romans didn't utilize much wind or water power, and didn't even utilize much animal power either.

The backbone of the Roman Empire was built on slave labor, to such a degree that it became detrimental to the economy itself - with slave labor so abundant, lower class citizens couldn't find work.

The Roman system actually stifled the discovery of technologies rather than encouraged it.
Romans produced, not discovered.
 
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It's funny cuz the Romans kicked ass at a lot of things, (war, engineering, shipping, sex toys), but they really did suck at technology overall.

The biggest reason is because of slavery. With so much abundant energy being supplied by slaves, the Romans didn't have to think up new ways to do things and invent tools, processes, etc.
except that whole aquaduct, sewage, heated water thing, along with hundres of other things.yeah they did nothing.
 
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There are comparatively few Roman technological inventions if you look at the brilliance and ingenuity of the Greeks, Muslims, Asians, etc, because the Roman system
 
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except that whole aquaduct, sewage, heated water thing, along with hundres of other things.yeah they did nothing.
They didn't INVENT much, numbnuts

They werent the first people to heat water

They weren't the first people to channel water

In fact, many of the things people associate with "Rome" they didn't INVENT at all.

Like I said already four times, the Romans weren't dumb. If they saw a good invention, they used it. And they definitely pushed the envelope in engineering. But most things they didn't actually INVENT, they simply adapted.
 
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That's like giving Alan Turing credit for inventing the internet when we all know it was al gore.

I believe rome improved on enough things enough to warrant them credit for these inventions.


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Yea exactly.
 
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A List of Ancient Roman Inventions

Having set the background and gained a glimpse of just how thorny the subject could be it seems easiest to change tack and take the loosest of definitions. Listing some of the many things for which Ancient Rome might justly be remembered for....in no particular order:

*A map of ancient roman roads in ItalyAdvanced roads and road networksroman road paving
*Milestones
*The standard width of our modern roads and tunnels is based on that of ancient Rome (there was a standard width for cart wheels, essentially based on the need of placing two horses side by side). The worn ruts in the roads made it virtually impossible to use any other measure.
*Triumphal arches
*Aqueducts (actually they learned much about structures from the Estruscans, but developed it to perfection)
* water pumpBronze valves and water pumps.
*Huge numbers of instruments and tools for engineering, construction and measurement. The Romans were, after all, excellent engineers. For example you could purchase your access to water supply for set hours of the day or set quantities of water, which were dutifully metered and billed, pretty much as you would today, albeit with slighty different technology!.
*Medical and Surgical tools (mainly thanks to the Greeks actually but hugely developed as a consequence of the needs generated by Gladiatorial games and continuous war campaigns)
*Cesareans - sounds like Caesar doesn't it? Cesareans were often used to save the baby if the mother died during childbirth.
*Fast curing cement - hugely important discovery which allowed cement to cure and harden in short times and even under water. The ancient Romans realised that adding pozzolanic earth from volcanic regions (Eg Pozzuoli near Naples) to traditional mortar allowed a water proof and extremely solid mix. This could be used to waterproof the interior of aqueduct tunnels or extend the potentials of Roman architecture with important buildings and domes such as the Pantheon.
*Reinforced concrete - they introduced metal bars into the concrete in order to gain greater strength.
*Caesar's wooden bridge across the Rhine - Ancient Roman BridgesMilitary engineering and war machines of all sorts and shapes. For example military camps, not unlike small villages, were essentially pre-fabricated and built or taken down in amazingly short times. Caesar's bridge over the Rhine was built from scratch in a matter of days.
*The grid structure of many cities, such as Barcelona or Paris is an echo of their past as Roman military settlements.
*The first professional army (?)
*Law and government: clearly not invented by the Romans, but certainly perfected to such a degree that Roman law is still at the base of many modern legal systems. You'd be amased at how advanced their marital and divorce legislation, "ius connubii" was!
*Holidays and leisure travel - again, don't know that you can actually say that they were Roman inventions, but certainly the relative safety and wellbeing generated during the heyday of Roman civilisation meant that holidays and foreign travel became extremely popular. The Mediterranean was known as a Roman pond and sea routes across it became extremely secure and frequent (once Pompey the Great had rid the seas of Pirates).
*Wild cuisine: their taste was pretty exotic. The wealth and luxury couldn't go without weird and wonderful dishes, many of which live on thanks to books such as Apicius' "De Re Coquinaria".
*The Greeks are generally regarded as the inventors of modern literature and theatre. The Roman contribution was the rather less intellectual but equally powerful "Satire". Still popular today. In fact, the name Satire is derived from a Roman dish called "Satura" which was a sort of minestrone soup full of just about anything.
*Gladiatorial games and chariot races were inherited from the Etruscans (a number of the first kings of Rome were Etruscans in fact).
*Shorthand and symbols such as "&" or abreviations such as "etc.", "NB", "PS" and many others.
*A huge number of words. Eg Curriculum Vitae, Senator (from Senex - old wise guy), Republic, Plebeian, Prefect, President, Legal, Penal, Judge, Judicial and so on and so on.
*Our calendar, thanks to Julius Caesar (who used "foreign" astronomers from Roman dominions to get it right). January was after the two faced god Janus. February was after "Februa" the wips used in a popular festivity held in February. March is for the god Mars (beginning of the war season in fact) and so on. July and August are quite interesting: July was renamed in honour of Julius Caesar and August renamed in honour of Emperor Augustus. September used to be the seventh month way back before the Julian calendar (Septem) October was the eigth, November the ninth, december the tenth. When they shifted to a twelve month calendar based on the Solar cycle rather than the lunar one they simply added the two month without actually changing the old numbered names so the twelfth month was actually called "tenth" and it still is today!
*Days of the week too: Monday is the day of the Moon, Sunday they Sun, Saturday is for the god Saturn. For the other days of the week we have to look to Latin languages eg in Italian: Tuesday is Martedi' (Mars day), Wednesdays is Mercoledi' (Mercury day), Thursday Giovedi' is Jove or Jupiter and Friday (Venerdi') is Venus day.
*The Saturnalia were celebrated until the 25th of December and involved an exchange of gifts. Christ and the god Mithras were both born on the 25th. It is not surprising that several old Roman feasts and festivities were absorbed into the Christian religion which eventually prevailed and set many of our modern festivities. Incidentally the 25th is when the days start getting longer again and so it isn't surprising that a pastoral society should regard it highly from the earliest of times.

*Roman numerals - essentially constructed around fingers on the hand: I, II, III, IV, V and X are 1,2,3,4,5 and 10. the V stands for an open hand of fingers whilst the X (10) is two open hands back to back. Not very good for pure mathematics but perfectly ok for counting up your goods as they got stacked up in the warehouse.
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* Lock and keys for doors - many found in the remains of ancient Roman cities are pretty similar to modern day ones. Not necessarily invented by a Roman of course but in widespread use thanks to them nonetheless.
*Roman cities had pavements and pedestrianised areas. In fact the Via Sacra alegedly had traffic as bad as today's - could we say they invented road rage too?
*The first census of population and belongings (so they could tax them). This was in the hands of a public magistrate called the Censor.
*Ambient heating (hot air was circulated underneath floors of houses).
*Apartment blocks - called "insula".
*The first public newspaper was the "Acta Diurna" published every day in the Roman forum and stuck on walls so that Roman citizens could know what was going on in the Senate.
*Public toilets. Emperor Vespasian placed a tax on using the toilets and on the urine (used for cleaning thanks to the amonia in it).
*Crucifixion and various other atrocious forms of torture
*Cypress trees have been associated with cemetaries and funerals since Roman times
* Roman SoldiersSocks, especially men's socks - long ones for the military in cold northern countries, but also for ancient Roman women or actors of commedy. The latter two were known as "soccus".
*Not much in music except a variety of trumpets for military parades.
*Rampant inflation (not sure it was only Roman but they certainly found out what it meant)
*Umbrellas for both sun and rain
*A huge variety of commercialised creams, lipsticks and cosmetics
*Candles - sticks of animal fat which the legionaries could even eat in times of starvation.
* Mangle for ironing
* Scissors
*Magnifying glass
*shoe soles made of cork
*Different shoe shapes for left and right foot. Read about ancient Roman shoes.
*Bikinis (see a famous mosaic from sicily showing young ladies in bikini)
* Showers (not to mentions their development of great public buildings such as spas and heated pools, gymnasiums, public libraries etc)
Postal system
*Street lighting (only towards the end of the empire)
*Unruly supporters and hooliganism at the stadiums
*Brides dressed in white being carried over the threshold of their new home. Ancient Roman Weddings.




Yes, they invented nothing! Bastards!!
 
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Yes, they invented nothing! Bastards!!
A) I didn't say "nothing", moron, I said comparatively little compared to the Greeks, Arabs, Asians, etc.

B) 90 percent of that list says "not really invented by the Romans, but..."

C) 90 percent of that list says "...but got popular through widespread use by the Romans..."


 
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A) I didn't say "nothing", moron, I said comparatively little compared to the Greeks, MUSLIMS, Asians, etc.

B) 90 percent of that list says "not really invented by the Romans, but..."

C) 90 percent of that list says "...but got popular through widespread use by the Romans..."


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You have a problem with Muslims or something?
 
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the romans invented muslims as well.
 
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