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I don't understand the anger toward illegal immigrants.

it's not like they're any worse than poor trashy americans.
we don't like poor trashy americans either.. why would we want more than double?
 
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I think that would be "biased against", not "biased toward"
yeah

also, apparently people tend to hire mexican immigrants at the same wages they would hire americans, simply because theyre willing to work harder for the same money
 
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Are you ever going to say what book you wrote? You are a ****ing moron so I want to be sure to steer clear of it.
oh nos drunken mcfartypants thinks I'm a moron
 
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On a more serious note, they are taking our high paying construction jobs and other employment opportunities for people without a high school diploma.


The other job sealers are the elderly. I went to the grocery store yesterday, and there wasn't a single greasy pizza faced kid anywhere. The whole store was being operated by 60+ year olds that should be ****ing retired.
unions would solve the first problem, public pensions that actually work, the second.
 
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A few weeks ago I told someone that I don't care who lives next door to me, just as long as they are supposed to be here.

He called me a racist. He was a white guy.

****ing PCs. Why does it seem that nancy-boy, white liberals outnumber rational thinkers 100:1? (Note: that doesn't mean Republicans.)
because the base population of the world is stupid
 
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i hate all mexicans, unless they are super hot.
 
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i hate all mexicans, unless they are super hot.
So, all Mexicans.
 
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Most people in US dont realize whats shakin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eylJVPn8uhw
 
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they took my ****ing job
 
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I think that would be "biased against", not "biased toward"
Glad someone pointed this out.
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4jIC5HLBdM
I can't believe I paused my iTunes and watched that whole thing
 
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10 minute video from the longer version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WJeqxuOfQ
That was an excellent visual explanation.

Dumb liberals win in the end though.
 
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but how else would tonyeltigre be in this country
 
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THEY TOOK OUR JOBS!
 
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That was an excellent visual explanation.

Dumb liberals win in the end though.
Liberals want the immigrant vote, conservatives want the cheap labor. It's an across the board problem. A smart moderate movement is forming and realizing this problem that we cannot enjoy or way of life if this influx of immigrants continues.

"Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me..."

It sounded nice then but once we can't sustain ourselves because we are overburdened we will cease to be a world power. The middle class will be gone and all the greedy people that wanted cheap labor under the veil of "helping the third world" will watch the bottom drop out locally.
 
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I wonder what would happen if the Apple farmer couldn't hire illegals to do the job. Would the apples just sit there and rot?

If you think so you are a god damn moron.

The argument that no white person would do it is the worst argument I have ever heard. If the jobs are there, people will take them. If they do not pay enough to bring people in, they will pay more to bring people in It is pretty simple economics.
But would the prices stay the same if the labor cost more?
 
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But would the prices stay the same if the labor cost more?
Of course not but that is looking at a very small part of the problem and worrying about tiny symptoms when there is a huge problem to be solved that would correct many of the symptoms.
 
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I don't understand the anger toward illegal immigrants.

it's not like they're any worse than poor trashy americans.
We should get rid of them too

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Illegal immigration is cool and I don't mind it at all. But then I'm not dirt poor or middle class and living paycheck to paycheck like most of you people. I can afford to subsidize other people's health care. Maybe you guy should get better jobs and make more money so you give less of a **** about the effect other people have on you. It's not that difficult. Just try working harder. You can do it if you want to.

And frankly I have respect for people who are willing to take the risk and do the work as a lot of our friends who have immigrated illegaly have done. I have more respect for them than those of you who were advantaged by being born American and waste that step up you were given at birth. Then you people go and whine about how others are getting more advantages when they're working harder than you and taking more risks than you. Think richer and work harder and maybe you'll make something of yourself like they have.

I can afford to do it as well, but that doesn't mean we should
 
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I wonder what would happen if the Apple farmer couldn't hire illegals to do the job. Would the apples just sit there and rot?

If you think so you are a god damn moron.

The argument that no white person would do it is the worst argument I have ever heard. If the jobs are there, people will take them. If they do not pay enough to bring people in, they will pay more to bring people in It is pretty simple economics.


A ****ing men. I have no problems with immigration as long as it's legal. It's undermining our immigration procedure and policies. I have no problems trading ****ing lazy ass welfare ****** ass Americans for Mexicans though.
 
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Of course not but that is looking at a very small part of the problem and worrying about tiny symptoms when there is a huge problem to be solved that would correct many of the symptoms.
Well see that's the thing. Consumers want things dirt cheap. Producers want to make huge profits.

If the workers need to be paid higher, prices have to be equally higher to keep those same profits. At some point something has to give. In markets where the item isn't necessarily a necessity, the chances of the consumers simply agreeing to pay more for the same things are slim. Alternatives or less consumption are a certainty.

No one cares about truly fixing a problem as long as there is money to be made or saved by exploiting cheap labor.
 
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