VeteranXX
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Originally Posted by apollod
The cost of these wars aren't **** compared to what war cost back in the 70's and before..
Vietnam cost 650 Billion and defense spending was around 9% of our GDP
Korea cost 691 Billion and defense spending was around 14% of our GDP
WW2 cost 3.2 Trillion and defense spending was around 37% of our GDP
Iraq and Afghanistan combined have cost around 800 Billion and our defense spending is only at about 4% of our GDP.
The wars are pretty ****ing cheap.. hell the 30 some odd days of the Persian Gulf War cost 92 Billion.. so running 2 wars over 7 years for only 800 billion is pretty ****ing cheap when you put it into historical perspective.
*all costs are in 2007 dollars
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But what is the price of American blood? I'd have gladly spent a little more money to save soldiers lives. But, instead the Bush admin decided to run the Iraq war on the cheap (good thinking Rumsfeld). Not enough feet on the ground, not enough proper equipment, etc., etc. All the alluding to the false claim that the war will be paid for with cheaper oil from a secure Iraq. So, thanks to Bush, the oil man, we're still stuck in Iraq, the oil companies are posting record profits, and the working class is suffering with higher costs on all necessities due to the more than doubling of oil prices.
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VeteranXX
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Originally Posted by triple
quick thought
you know how expensive this war is right
why didnt we just buy the oil in the first place
at 2003 prices
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
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Because you voted for Bush - ALL YOUR FAULT.
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VeteranXV
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major terrorist attacks on the us since 9/11: zero
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VeteranXX
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Originally Posted by triple
major terrorist attacks on the us since 9/11: zero
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And what does that prove?
Not a damned thing, moron.
The world as a whole is more or less safe?
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VeteranX
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Originally Posted by triple
major terrorist attacks on the us since 9/11: zero
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you dont consider anthrax a major terrorist attack?wtf
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VeteranXV
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did anthrax kill more than like what, 3 people? no, not really.
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VeteranX
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It was sent to members of gov and the media but it wasnt major.
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VeteranXX
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Has the world suffered more or less terror attacks since 9/11?
C'mon pear - ante up...you started this.
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VeteranXX Contributor
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Afghans are the one-hit wonders of the terrorist world. 9/11 was their "Who Let the Dogs Out." I mean, c'mon. You'd think a people who hate us so much that to die killing us is an honor would be able to cook up something new in 7 years to keep the terrorism train rolling. I mean, whoopity-doo, you crashed a plane into a couple of buildings. You pulled just one hair off the head of America. What were they thinking?
"I NO GAIS! Lets create an intricate plan involving the hi-jacking of U.S aircraft, and then crash it into a couple of their buildings. If we're lucky, we can kill a few thousands of their people and we will get to Heaven."
"What are the possible consequences of such a plan?"
"There are none. I mean the world's most fearsome and powerful military force will be deployed and begin sweeping through our lands, killing everyone they see. It is very likely that the land we love and will kill for with become an occupied state as we have no real means to defend ourselves against such an awesome force as the US military. So, nothing too serious."
"Kay, let's do it."
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VeteranXV
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Originally Posted by Stilgar
Has the world suffered more or less terror attacks since 9/11?
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Is Bush president of the world? What control does he have over worldwide attacks?
No, hes president of this country. So far? Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero.
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VeteranXX
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Originally Posted by Makasuro
Everyone is too fat, lazy and entertained to do anything about the state this nation is in.
They pretty much have everyone right where they want them.
Ignorant brain-washed consumer whore sheep.
Oh well what the **** can we do?
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The people are only doing what they have been brainwashed to do by the Education System and Mass Media. They have manipulated people into being mindless blobs who pay little to no attention to what goes on in the world, so they have no real political power.
What you can do, is try to wake them up. It only takes 2% to 5% of the population to make a real difference.
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VeteranX
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only in the neocon world would shutting down washington wouldnt be considered major
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VeteranXX
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Originally Posted by triple
Is Bush president of the world? What control does he have over worldwide attacks?
No, hes president of this country. So far? Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero.
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You are so bad at what you do.
You have single handedly made for more conversions to democrat than GW hisself.
gj, putz.
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VeteranX
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Originally Posted by triple
major terrorist attacks on the us since 9/11: zero
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And how long a time had elapsed before 9/11 since an attack on US soil? Does Tim McVeigh count? If not, why not? If so, why aren't we waterboarding right wing militia members?
How about the anthrax attack on 2 Democrat senators and news outlets in 2002?
The previous Islamic attack was in 1993 (8 years prior; it's been almost 7 since 9/11). Prior to that? 1975.
They don't happen that often, and it's hardly as major as you momos make it out to be in light of other killers in our society that do far more cumulative damage but get no attention paid to them. What I got from 9-11 is that we need tighter airport security, not that we need to **** ourselves in the ass in favor of the thinnest illusion of safety.
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VeteranXV
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too bad al qaeda hasn't hit us again so you could have more credibility
that sucks huh
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VeteranXV
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And how long a time had elapsed before 9/11 since an attack on US soil?
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which wars did we start to prevent any further attacks? clinton prosecuted them as criminal acts, not acts of war. And for tim it actually was, since he was a us citizen.
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How about the anthrax attack on 2 Democrat senators and news outlets in 2002?
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You're comparing that to 9/11? Thousands dead, skyscrapers down?
Its a minor footnote, not a major terrorist attack.
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The previous Islamic attack was in 1993
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USS cole, 2000.
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Last edited by triple; 07-04-2008 at 19:04..
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VeteranX
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Originally Posted by triple
which wars did we start to prevent any further attacks? clinton prosecuted them as criminal acts, not acts of war. And for tim it actually was, since he was a us citizen.
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You didn't answer the question, but you sure dodged it ****tily. Terrorist attacks are nowhere near as endemic as people like you treat them, certainly not in the proportion that you do.
And the idea that McVeigh's act wasn't terrorism because he was a US citizen and was tried as a criminal is
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VeteranXV
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I didn't say it wasn't terrorism, I said it wasn't an act of war. Now whos dodging?
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VeteranXX
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They are only terrorist and insurgents when it's convenient for us. duh.
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VeteranX
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Originally Posted by triple
USS cole, 2000.
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In Yemen. Try again.
Oh, and the fact that you mention USS Cole in light of this:
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Originally Posted by triple
Is Bush president of the world? What control does he have over worldwide attacks?
No, hes president of this country. So far? Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero.
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How is it to have your cake and eat it too?
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