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71% of the independent economists favored Obama

More of the REPUBLICAN economists favored Obama.

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the great thing is after 4 years of recession a republican will be back in the white house
At this point...

I want the GOP to explode and reform around traditional fiscal conservative ideas, with less reactionary nonsense and less cultural warfare nonsense. The GOP have lost their way and are a disgrace.

I've like to see them win Congress in 2010.

Then Obama + GOP Congress for 6 years (assuming obama isnt a complete ****up)
 
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So of 14 (R) econs, 6 favor Obama, 3 favor McCain, and 5 think they're both clowns? Yeah, that looks statistically significant.

Not saying the poll is without merit, just that the "but most repubs favored obama!!!!!111!!" argument is pretty weak. You can do better than that against triple.
 
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One of the older publications on the planet & the leading defenders of free trade...





I predict all the diehard GOP'rs will:

1. flame me and avoid discussing the facts

2. pretend this survey was "liberal media bias" - even tho 71% of the independent respondents said obama and even tho the REPUBLICAN economists still preferred obama

3. proceed with just calling obama a socialist, muslim & terrorist
The Economist is famously left-leaning you moron.
 
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The Economist is famously left-leaning you moron.


Thanks for stepping up, dumpy. We were running out of idiocy on this thread.

Ok, let me attempt a non-douchebag response.

1. previously, somebody on TW argued that The Economist was lefty... and got laughed at

2. this somebody argued that wikipedia quoted an editor as saying they were "liberal"

3. it was explained to this somebody that the term "liberal" is used differently over there in the UK, and that the quote was in the context of him explaining the paper's anti-Monarchist sentiments

4. arguing that the foremost pro-free-trade magazine is lefty is really sad.
 
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The Economist is famously left-leaning you moron.
I think you're confusing "classic liberalism" with what Americans define as "left-leaning".

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Classical liberalism (also known as traditional liberalism[1], laissez-faire liberalism[2], market liberalism[3] or, in much of the world, simply liberalism) is a doctrine stressing individual freedom and limited government. This includes the importance of human rationality, individual property rights, natural rights, the protection of civil liberties, constitutional limitation of government, free markets, and individual freedom from restraint as exemplified in the writings of John Locke, Adam Smith, David Hume, David Ricardo, Voltaire, Montesquieu and others.
 
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Thanks for stepping up, dumpy. We were running out of idiocy on this thread.

Ok, let me attempt a non-douchebag response.

1. previously, somebody on TW argued that The Economist was lefty... and got laughed at

2. this somebody argued that wikipedia quoted an editor as saying they were "liberal"

3. it was explained to this somebody that the term "liberal" is used differently over there in the UK, and that the quote was in the context of him explaining the paper's anti-Monarchist sentiments

4. arguing that the foremost pro-free-trade magazine is lefty is really sad.
You're wrong. The Economist is famously left-leaning. It is far from being THE FOREMOST pro-free-trade publication on the planet.
 
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I think you're confusing "classic liberalism" with what Americans define as "left-leaning".
No I'm not.
 
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You're wrong. The Economist is famously left-leaning. It is far from being THE FOREMOST pro-free-trade publication on the planet.
Ok, i give up.

Proceed to make a complete ****in fool out of yourself... again...

(claiming The Economist to be "left-leaning" is one of the dumbest things you have ever said, and you've said a lot of really stupid ****ing ****)

For like 150 years, they've been the epitome of free-trade, limited government, pro-democracy commentary.
 
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The Economist pushes neoclassical economic policies, which are all theories of left-leaning ideologies.
 
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Ok, i give up.

Proceed to make a complete ****in fool out of yourself... again...

(claiming The Economist to be "left-leaning" is one of the dumbest things you have ever said, and you've said a lot of really stupid ****ing ****)
Of course you give up. You're not capable of being educated.
 
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You're wrong. The Economist is famously left-leaning. It is far from being THE FOREMOST pro-free-trade publication on the planet.
what is then dumpy?
 
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The Economist pushes neoclassical economic policies, which are all theories of left-leaning ideologies.


Dumpy's gonna drop his community college education on us. Look out...

HAI GUYS, IF IT ISNT LIBERTARIAN AUSTRIAN BLAH BLAH ANARCHOCAPITALIST BLAH BLAH BLAH I READ THIS IN A RON PAUL PAMPLET BLAH BLAH BLAH NEOCLASSICAL KEYNESIAN SOMETHING BLAH BLAH BLAH SOCIALISM
 
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I've decided that due to this thread, I'll be voting for McCain.
 
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You're wrong. The Economist is famously left-leaning.
 
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^ house paid for with fannie mac support, of course...
 
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Dumpy, do you want to make a case at all or just sound 'forceful and confident' while throwing out phrases like 'neoclassical' to impress lurkers that have no idea what you're talking about.

I honestly can't figure out why you would think The Economist would be left-leaning, much well 'famously left-leaning'.

Can you even begin to make a case supporting that?
 
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obviously free trade is such a famous democratic position
 
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Dumpy, do you want to make a case at all or just sound 'forceful and confident' while throwing out phrases like 'neoclassical' to impress lurkers that have no idea what you're talking about.

I honestly can't figure out why you would think The Economist would be left-leaning, much well 'famously left-leaning'.

Can you even begin to make a case supporting that?
Give him another 20 minutes to google some retarded libertarian argument.
 
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Neoclassical economics and the Economist is 'left leaning'???? Talk about the world upside down.

The irony is that in Europe people view the Economist as an ultra right wing magazine.

I guess different strokes for different folks.
 
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Dumpy's gonna drop his community college education on us. Look out...

HAI GUYS, IF IT ISNT LIBERTARIAN AUSTRIAN BLAH BLAH ANARCHOCAPITALIST BLAH BLAH BLAH I READ THIS IN A RON PAUL PAMPLET BLAH BLAH BLAH NEOCLASSICAL KEYNESIAN SOMETHING BLAH BLAH BLAH SOCIALISM
Rational theories endorsed by Austrian economists is obviously what I'd prefer if given the choice between Austrian and neoclassical schools. But I wouldn't be quick to align myself with them either. Their ideological primaries vary too much for my taste.

By the way, Chicago school of economics is neoclassical as well. It is not Democratic-leaning. Reagan favored Chicago.
 
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