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In a powerful and disturbing new video called Democrats Love Socialism, filmmaker Ami Horowitz posits that Democrats have moved hard to the left, proves it by showing American Democrats approving of socialism, then blows that sanguine perspective to smithereens by showing footage he gathered in the disaster that is socialist Venezuela.

***8203;The Venezuelan footage begins with Horowitz walking down a dangerous street accompanied by a native. When Horowitz asks why they are there, the native answers that he is hungry, and looking for anything he can eat, whether it is a dog, cat or pigeon.

Images follow of riots, fires out of control, and starving natives fighting each other for food. Horowitz visits a barrio, and speaking with the starving natives there, notes that people will stand in line for days just to get a can of milk so they don't starve. Horowitz points out that the natives are at risk of standing in lines for hours or days without getting food, as the lines are controlled by the government-approved mafia, called "The Collective." They bus in their people before the stores open and grab all the food before the starving natives can get any.

Horowitz delineates how the society has broken down into the poor and the super-rich, that those in the middle class are destitute. He speaks of the violence in Venezuela, noting that although Venezuela has one-tenth the number of people that America has, it has three times the numbers of murders. One young boy tells Horowitz that his brother was murdered just so his bicycle could be taken. Another young man says his girlfriend was murdered by getting shot in the head.

Horowitz gets quite a different answer than the one he receives from American Democrats when he asks native Venezuelans if socialism works. A young man answers, "No, because if it really worked we wouldn't be in chaos and hunger." A young woman replies, "No. If it really worked we wouldn't be doing this. We would not be standing in these long lines. We would not be killing each other or risking our lives. In reality, this really does not work. It sucks!" Another young man states, "No, it doesn't work here. It's all a lie they tell us. The government doesn't do anything about it. They are just there to take advantage."

When Horowitz asks one woman what she thinks of Americans wanting to bring democratic socialism to America, she says bluntly, "They would have to live what we are living so they can see for themselves that nothing is good, so they see this is only a nightmare for us, a terror." A young girl answers, "I would tell the Americans not to commit to that madness because that is all a lie. They lied to us. We don't have anything to eat. Crime has taken over. So, yeah, it would be smart not to commit to that madness." A young man asserts, "I would tell them to try living here, the way we are living now. To feel what we are feeling, we invite you to come and find out for yourself."

At the end of the video, Horowitz returns to American Democrats. One woman says confidently about socialism, "They are one of the most productive; their people are the happiest; they have the least amount of crime, violence." Horowitz clarifies: "Socialist countries?"

The woman answers, "There's nothing wrong with it in my eyes."

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Gonna need some cliffs
 
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Stop being so ****ing lazy.
 
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Basically, when you take everyone's money who works and give it to those who don't, your country will turn into a **** hole, or basically, inner cities in America.
 
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is there a socialist country other than china (they buy lots of treasury bonds hehe) that is not under some type of US embargo?
 
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Stop being so ****ing lazy.
You mean like when someone cuts and pastes their threads?
 
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No, that's just efficiency.
 
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is there a socialist country other than china (they buy lots of treasury bonds hehe) that is not under some type of US embargo?
No. The US also props up competing capitalist countries, like Colombia in the case of Venezuela.
 
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No, that's just efficiency.
What about when they don't quote it properly?
 
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the venezuelan leadership accused the USA of murdering their leader and expelled our diplomats while showing paranoia and insulted our leaders. not to mention the human rights abuses committed by Maduro such as socialism.

if you think giving the bad leaders help in turn gives the normal people relief that explains why your comments are silly.
 
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is there a socialist country other than china (they buy lots of treasury bonds hehe) that is not under some type of US embargo?
hahahahaahah

socialism would have worked if it weren't for them crimes of capitalism

if only socialist nations invented something over taxing everything

if only those greedy capitalists weren't so hellbent on charging for their services

cuba 1950's ......cuba today



same american cars and coats of paint on buildings
 
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No. The US also props up competing capitalist countries, like Colombia in the case of Venezuela.
the tragedy of competition

which implies choice

that is the real monster here

75% Of Venezuelans Lose In 2016 | Zero Hedge

Hungry Venezuelans break into zoo and butcher animal for meat | Fusion

LOL
 
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the venezuelan leadership accused the USA of murdering their leader and expelled our diplomats while showing paranoia and insulted our leaders. not to mention the human rights abuses committed by Maduro such as socialism.

if you think giving the bad leaders help in turn gives the normal people relief that explains why your comments are silly.
Let Them Eat Cake: Venezuela Celebrates Chavez’ Birthday With $100,000 Cake, While Citizens Starve | Zero Hedge

let them eat cake

 
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socialism would have been that good life if only people weren't so greedy that they felt the need to charge $$$$ for their time and services

i mean think of how perfect the world would be if everyone just worked like hell for free
 
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ok so ppl r socially defective and should be exterminated so that we can have the paradise
 
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It still works pretty good if you don't base your currency, jobs, and tax system on selling oil to people.

I was recently thinking of this and Scotland. What if Scotland were to create tidal hydroelectric on a larger scale, so that they had surplus energy to sell to England, Wales, France, and maybe to the Netherlands.

You wouldn't base your whole tax system on the guarantee that that electrical surplus was always there to sell and that others would always buy it. You wouldn't make electricity totally free in Scotland, because you need to pay for the system and PROVIDE JOBS FOR PEOPLE.

And I wouldn't be saying, "We hate the US" and crap like that even if Russia guaranteed a lot of money or support, which is always shaky. You don't criticize people for monetary gain, I think even if your back is against the wall.

You would be finding out how to harness the surplus to produce other products or services, like making aluminum, growing stuff, or mining stuff. Think of assembly lines running on almost free energy, with people feeding the robots raw materials and doing the necessary steps in production the robots could not do. I bet Venezuela didn't do this. If they had insured everyone had a chicken coop in their country, no one would be chasing down the rats right now.

The US sucks at this also. If we had a critical food shortage for whatever reason, no one would be able to feed themselves after a couple of weeks. Profit and ownership is so bottlenecked that if something massive fails, the whole system might collapse into chaos. People in the old days thought that the highest level of wealth you could get was to own a farm because if everything went bad, you could still feed yourself and your family.

So Venezuela should have figured this out somehow. Even in Medieval times they knew how much land people needed to subsist on, and that if the acreage reached a certain point or there was a problem with growing, the people on it would miss their rent and start to starve.

You shouldn't be giving them a hard time about it now. You should be sending them chickens and telling them how resourceful they are and how they can get out of this problem. Even the person doing the news story could have went around and bought the people in that neighborhood chickens and cages for a few hundred bucks.

Buck! Buck, buck, buck!
 
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of course that is only solution

when you don't work for free

you must have everything taken from you and a gun put at your head until you can learn to work for free

As Venezuelan "Bread War" Escalates, Maduro Warns Bakers "You Will Pay, I Swear"

i mean from gulags to kulaks it will always be the same

the problem is people charging $$$$ for their products

not the theft and murder for the greater good
 
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It still works pretty good if you don't base your currency, jobs, and tax system on selling oil to people.

I was recently thinking of this and Scotland. What if Scotland were to create tidal hydroelectric on a larger scale, so that they had surplus energy to sell to England, Wales, France, and maybe to the Netherlands.

You wouldn't base your whole tax system on the guarantee that that electrical surplus was always there to sell and that others would always buy it. You wouldn't make electricity free in Scotland, because you need to pay for the system and PROVIDE JOBS FOR PEOPLE.

And I wouldn't be saying, "We hate the US" and crap like that even if Russia guaranteed a lot of money or support, which is always shaky. You don't criticize people for monetary gain, I think even if your back is against the wall.

You would be finding out how to harness the surplus to produce other products or services, like making aluminum, growing stuff, or mining stuff. I bet Venezuela didn't do this. If they had insured everyone had a chicken coop in their country, no one would be chasing down the rats right now.

The US sucks at this also. If we had a critical food shortage for whatever reason, no one would be able to feed themselves after a couple of weeks.
every tree has been picked clean

and just as with any too big of government problem they will not let you grow your own, make your own, import your own unless the governing class says so and gets the first cut

if you do you are part of the black market(think prohibition era) and essentially the only thing holding up these economies right now

also the first group to go to prison for their crimes of capitalism

i mean this isn't that hard to figure out people

How The Black Market Is Saving Two Countries From Their Governments

this doesn't happen by accident

From 'Socialist Utopia' To 'Silence Of The Lambs' - Venezuela's Overcrowded Prisons Devolve Into Cannibalism
 
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That barrio has a hill behind it full of grass and trees. It's like there must be three of four "collective" guards standing around its perimeter 24/7 to insure the rich guy who owns it will not be robbed.

I'm sure there are a lot of bugs and seeds there for chickens to eat. Maybe the government would come and take the chickens away and give them to the rich. That whole country seems destabilized. Usually when this happens in South America, the people put up with it until it gets slightly less oppressive, or they go civil war.
 
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you can't personally own production in socialist countries or its not socialist
 
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