This is for you Trump voters.

Idiot, you can't do any of that without water and power.

Secession doesnt mean the end of trade. even if california needs something they dont have they can import it from another state/country. I think this is a fantastic idea for everyone involved

SuperTrap said:

Idiot, you can't do any of that without water and power.

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most california water comes from california.

most california power comes from california.

and we have the most VC investment in renewables.

don't think those are problems.

go so how that worked out for the south

cogzinofa said:

california would be perfectly fine without the rest of the nation. 6th largest economy in the world. largest producer of food in the US. number 1 dairy state in the US. and we got silicon valley and hollywood.

what do we need the rest of the country for?

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How quickly can you guys get this arranged?

It would be perfect if this can be done by 1-1-17.

Perhaps asking Mexico to annex you instead might facilitate a quicker transition.

O yeah, and see if OR and WA will join in.

And when California secedes, we definitely need to charge them a 35% tariff on all exported goods like we will Mexico if they want to sell shit to America. Help us pay off our debt and spread the Hollywood wealth. Only fair. Hehe

Sorry, the Pacific Northwest is reserved by the Northwest Front for the future establishment of the Northwest American Republic.

So much data I'm not going to reference it all

I'll stop here and let you continue.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/judeclemente/2016/04/03/californias-growing-imported-electricity-problem/#36650522e96b

only if we get to build a wall around it, to keep people in California from leaving.



James G. Blaine Society - Wikipedia

The sale of bumper stickers with phrases like "Don't Californicate Oregon" also became popular across the state in the 1970s. The governor's "come visit, but don't stay" remark as well as the ungreeting cards and bumper stickers articulated the values of the James G. Blaine Society.

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Greedo909 said:

The Cognitive Dissonance Cluster Bomb | Scott Adams' Blog

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See dunning-Kruger wiki

havax said:

And when California secedes, we definitely need to charge them a 35% tariff on all exported goods like we will Mexico if they want to sell shit to America. Help us pay off our debt and spread the Hollywood wealth. Only fair. Hehe

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Yeah that's not how tariffs work.

You would be paying 35% more in order to encourage more domestic production.

We wouldn't be paying more.

you also wouldn't sell any at +35% price

SuperTrap said:

So much data I'm not going to reference it all

I'll stop here and let you continue.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/judeclemente/2016/04/03/californias-growing-imported-electricity-problem/#36650522e96b

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yeah, I don't see that as a problem. if CA was cut off we'd just produce more domestically.

the reality is the talk of california leaving the union over this is imminently retarded. there's no legal way to do it under US law and the cost of untangling everything is probably more than it's worth.

but it's also pretty retarded to talk like we need the rest of the country for anything. we don't. we need tourist dollars, but we'll get those whether or not we're a part of the US. we need workers, but they'll come here even if we're our own country...and many in silicon valley would love it because then we could set our own immigration policy and import cheap labor in mass from india. and we need to sell everyone almonds...and you all will buy them whether or not we're in the country and given how dependent that crop is on weather I doubt anywhere else is going to take that over and I don't really care that much about almonds anyway.

we get less from the feds than we send to the feds so ultimately the US is a bit of a drain on our pocketbooks. the democrats and republicans don't even bother to campaign here for president because we come too late in the primaries to matter and the state so reliably goes democrat that even though we have the most EC votes and 12% of the US population we have exactly zero effect on the choice for president.

the dems need us more than we need them. too bad california democrats are too stupid to see that.

SuperTrap said:

you also wouldn't sell any at +35% price

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not that worried about it. china's a huge market and we have ports.

I think most of our nuts go to china anyway.

and you all need to get your tomatoes from somewhere. we produce 95% of the processed tomatoes in the US. don't know who's that remaining 5% but they better get working.

I thought it was going to happen on day 1 but apparently, they already got him as many of the things he ran on, are crumbling as we speak.

Intel, AMD, nVidia, Facebook, Twitter, Adobe, Salesforce, Oracle, Apple, Google/Alphabet, Air BnB, Uber, Pandora, Disney, Tesla, to name a few, are all HQed/based/were started in California.

Yes, go pay more for all of those and get started on your domestic replacements.

keep postulating on shit he cant do anything about yet.

cogzinofa said:

not that worried about it. china's a huge market and we have ports.

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While this is a silly convo, here's one thing:

Long Beach.

The port there is amazing and if Im not mistaken, the largest on entire west coast.

Wow, ok. I don't have the time or energy. It's like you are missing the big picture. That's ok. I still like ya.