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I am most impressed with skyrocketing violent crime and suicide rates in oil bust areas
See, I don't get this. Natural resource jobs are always boom and bust so I have no pity for the dip **** that bought a $600,000 home, a tricked out $80,000 pickup, a boat, an ATV, a snowmobile and all the blow they could handle on a weekly basis.

How ****ing stupid do you have to be?
 
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Real ****ing dumb

But I jump off bridges blindfolded so long as safety nets will catch me

Not my problem if tax payers pay for it

We are but one giant moral hazard...too big to fail or jail
 
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See, I don't get this. Natural resource jobs are always boom and bust so I have no pity for the dip **** that bought a $600,000 home, a tricked out $80,000 pickup, a boat, an ATV, a snowmobile and all the blow they could handle on a weekly basis.

How ****ing stupid do you have to be?
what about the accountant who works for an oil company that had to lay off 60% of its workforce who lives in a place where a single family home starts at 350,000

not everyone affected by low commodity prices is some dumb highschool dropout rig pig
 
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KingSobieski
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Are there any candidates which you semi supported this election cycle?
 
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Captain Tele
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Ztir

Did you call socialism daddy when yours was unemployed and out drinking all night?

Did socialism read you bed time stories and tuck you in at nights?
 
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We're due for a one termer anyway, so these are good throw away candidates.
 
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Pagy
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well like, i dont mind ei, i pay into it as i would any insurance, so when i collect when **** happens i wouldnt feel bad about it.

but some people work for 6mos, go on ei, and go back for another 6mos...so to these ****s, ei isnt an insurance for **** happens, its the ****ing plan. these assholes should be tossed off.
 
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Ztir
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well like, i dont mind ei, i pay into it as i would any insurance, so when i collect when **** happens i wouldnt feel bad about it.

but some people work for 6mos, go on ei, and go back for another 6mos...so to these ****s, ei isnt an insurance for **** happens, its the ****ing plan. these assholes should be tossed off.
to be fair i totally agree with u

i would say people who work for 6 months steady then take 6 months off can get ****ed, but if you have a crew and need to get by on ei for 2 months because theres no jobs, i don't mind paying for that
 
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TrojanMan421
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This awkwardly probably the most civil politics discussion TW has had in 10 years.
 
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bam
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ok so

using %s

my company takes 8% for stuff like dental/medical benefits like massages and **** and what is the american equivalent of 401k contributions

gov takes 27%, which breaks down into:
income tax - 18%
cpp(canada pension plan, aka social security? i guess) - 4%
ei - 4%
long term disability - 1%
Like bowl of blood, you pay less income tax than I do. ****.

EI is pretty much just like welfare/unemployment here in the US and like Canada a lot of commodity workers (oil) live off-and-on unemployment.

How is Canada with illegal immigrants and such? I would assume the US misses out on tax revenue from illegal immigrants that give fake information or work under the table. But I really have no idea how true or much of an impact that is on the revenues.
 
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Ztir
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Like bowl of blood, you pay less income tax than I do. ****.

EI is pretty much just like welfare/unemployment here in the US and like Canada a lot of commodity workers (oil) live off-and-on unemployment.

How is Canada with illegal immigrants and such? I would assume the US misses out on tax revenue from illegal immigrants that give fake information or work under the table. But I really have no idea how true or much of an impact that is on the revenues.
its not that big of a deal tbh, i dont think our gov even keeps track of how many illegal immigrants they think there are. i tried to google and the highest number i could find was 500,000

i can definitely imagine in a country with 10x the population this would be a pretty huge problem. 350 million ppl though thats a load of cash no matter how you slice it
 
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TrojanMan421
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you guys do know that US has EI right and it's not the same as welfare
 
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Captain Tele
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Not only do we have it but you can't even work for free, provide community service, without having to legally pay into it

Which I find very amusing for some reason

And no it isn't welfare imo
 
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Immigration and inner cities
 
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triple
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Where does the free **** and free ride funding come from?


I know it's propaganda but it's the most concise explanation I've seen so far.
 
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Kerosene31
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The robin hood tax is exactly why this conversation is moot. Wake me when the guy running on the anti-big business ticket gets elected He'd be better off on a punching babies and puppies ticket.
 
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-SS-
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lol 'robin hood tax'. Now that's amusing.

Prince John = the Gvt in that folk lore tale

So an ideology (aka communist/socialist/progressive) that is all about the gvt is now going to rob from itself?

$ucker$.
 
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Kerosene31
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lol 'robin hood tax'. Now that's amusing.

Prince John = the Gvt in that folk lore tale

So an ideology (aka communist/socialist/progressive) that is all about the gvt is now going to rob from itself?

$ucker$.
Yep, guess who is the main group telling you how bad this stuff is? The rich.

The rich let us sit and argue our silly ideologies while they cash in.
 
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Thingfish
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None of this stuff is in the executive purview anyhoo. If you want Robin Hoods you must elect them to congress, not the presidency.
 
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Pagy
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if you had millions and millions in income that would be taken away by the government; what would you do?
 
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