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Probably cuz he's a socialist and not a communist?
How does the job and cost of living situation work in Canada? I know what textbook socialism is, but I'm curious how it plays out in reality. If one is a fast food clerk and cannot afford the basic necessities of life (housing, food, clothes, electricity, etc), how do they go on living? What about wage discrepancy?

We have welfare here and I would consider it socialist, so I'm honestly just curious.
 
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Where did I say the words constitution anywhere in that post

Or even that I'm referring to America

Or any of that **** u just said

And even if I said it, how does that at all have anything to do with your post? Is America suddenly a socialist country?
 
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How does the job and cost of living situation work in Canada? I know what textbook socialism is, but I'm curious how it plays out in reality. If one is a fast food clerk and cannot afford the basic necessities of life (housing, food, clothes, electricity, etc), how do they go on living? What about wage discrepancy?

We have welfare here and I would consider it socialist, so I'm honestly just curious.
Number of ways - if you simply don't make enough to survive I'm pretty sure you don't get an extra paycheck or anything like that from the gov(though ive never had to deal with that). There's ei(employment insurance) that everyone pays into which is basically welfare if you get laid off until you can find a new job(I think you can collect ei for a year, not too sure. My dad worked in the oil patch so he was on ei quite often between jobs and such)

There's basically section 8 type of low income housing if you make below a certain $$ a year( we were looking for places to live many years ago and got denied because we made too much - I didn't know that this even existed)

We also have uhc, so healthcare costs are pretty much nothing

Theres no food stamp type of service(oddly enough, TIL)

Off the top of my head I can't really think of anything else - do you have anything specific you're wondering about? I'll go look at a paystub and let you know what I pay for each tax thing
 
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ok so

using %s

my company takes 8% for stuff like dental/medical benefits like massages and **** and what is the american equivalent of 401k contributions

gov takes 27%, which breaks down into:
income tax - 18%
cpp(canada pension plan, aka social security? i guess) - 4%
ei - 4%
long term disability - 1%
 
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We got all dat **** in americaz, mang!
 
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ok so

using %s

my company takes 8% for stuff like dental/medical benefits like massages and **** and what is the american equivalent of 401k contributions

gov takes 27%, which breaks down into:
income tax - 18%
cpp(canada pension plan, aka social security? i guess) - 4%
ei - 4%
long term disability - 1%
you pay less income tax than i do

**** america i ****ing hate this country
 
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Fwiw I'm on the 2nd bracket bracket

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/fq/txrts-eng.html

I said 4 at first cuz I can't ****in read derp
 
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well if i was a right wing pundit i would look at that and regurgitate that you pay a 100.5% tax
 
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do canadians pay sales tax?
 
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do canadians pay sales tax?
Each province has their own - some are real bad. I live in the place w/ the lowest at 5. Some places it goes as high as 15%
 
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OBAMA: WE HAVE THE BEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD
OBAMA: WE HAVE THE LOWEST EMPLOYMENT RATE IN THE WORLD
you know that is the truth, right? I mean, comparing it to the entire world, US in the leader in that ...

I believe Sanders would be the best Obama's successor. At least the basic ideas are the same. Bring a republican now and ya'll amuricans will suffer with all the setbacks of the socialist reforms that Obama administration managed to implement with triumph and success. And not only economically speaking... Social too. It will be impossible for any other president to match with what Obama brought to the World. So yeah.. perhaps Sanders could do that..

**** all that, I was just trolling. Bring the Man to build a mother ****ing wall! **** yeah!!
 
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anubis ty bud e you know ur opinions on this subject are valued here
 
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Last edited by Captain Tele; want small govt sooooo baaaaaaad
Dealy et al want socialism soooo bad

They can taste it

Who else will pay for their life saving gynecomastia procedures

Drain all that pork from thy loins and chops
 
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Seems like the canucks have got the whole thing figured out.
 
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Where did I say the words constitution anywhere in that post

Or even that I'm referring to America

Or any of that **** u just said

And even if I said it, how does that at all have anything to do with your post? Is America suddenly a socialist country?
Where did I say anything

What words did I use and when

Because I am high and make no points... but joints

I just love socialism and all things socialistic

All other points to that are negated and distractions

End post...end Ztir
 
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Each province has their own - some are real bad. I live in the place w/ the lowest at 5. Some places it goes as high as 15%
Do you have 'city' and 'county' taxes as well?
 
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Seems like the canucks have got the whole thing figured out.

Loony is tanking

Food prices are skyrocketing

Banks going NIRP

Oil sands are a bust

And in middle of housing bubble

They got it all worked out

I am most impressed with skyrocketing violent crime and suicide rates in oil bust areas
 
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Number of ways - if you simply don't make enough to survive I'm pretty sure you don't get an extra paycheck or anything like that from the gov(though ive never had to deal with that). There's ei(employment insurance) that everyone pays into which is basically welfare if you get laid off until you can find a new job(I think you can collect ei for a year, not too sure. My dad worked in the oil patch so he was on ei quite often between jobs and such)

There's basically section 8 type of low income housing if you make below a certain $$ a year( we were looking for places to live many years ago and got denied because we made too much - I didn't know that this even existed)

We also have uhc, so healthcare costs are pretty much nothing

Theres no food stamp type of service(oddly enough, TIL)

Off the top of my head I can't really think of anything else - do you have anything specific you're wondering about? I'll go look at a paystub and let you know what I pay for each tax thing
yeah some people really abuse ei with seasonal/contract work.

im no welfare expert but people seem to get by on it, esp if they pump out a few kids.
 
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U mean like ztirs parents did

I guess I get why he likes it so much

It raised him
 
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