the impenetrable dome just got 10 feet deeper

Originally Posted by amRam

You seem to not understand what establishment means.

Originally Posted by uno

He does, he just wants me to call him disingenuous again. Hes a joke of a troll

Explain it to me

Originally Posted by Paladin-5

he skipped the first day of the tourney and still "won", ha ha. Second place guy must've been like wtf dude

Exactly that. The guy went to bed in the lead, came back the next morning for day 2, and the leaderboard showed Trump 5 strokes ahead of him. Trump said he played the round on his own, and it counts because it's his course, lol.

Originally Posted by cael

trump was an outsider he's an establishment disruptor that's why he had mike pence, chris wray, and john bolton on his team

John Bolton was clearly used as the bad cop/alternative in negotiations. That doesn't mean Trump was establishment himself. He didn't always do what John Bolton wanted to do. Are you now faulting people for having diversity on their team?

Originally Posted by Lozza Mate

All of his legislative achievements were standard Republican.

I get that he talked a lot of ****, and that fooled dumb asses like yourself into thinking he was fundamentally different. But there you go.

The establishment did not support the Afghanistan withdrawal, especially standard Republicans. If Trump didn't initiate it; Biden would have never been able to do it.

Originally Posted by Lozza Mate

Explain it to me

Political lifers. Trump's failing was thinking he'd storm into politics like a bull in a china shop and wreck everybody. Except it turned out to be an amateur joining a professional fight and getting his **** pushed in.

i dunno man, i dont think the china shop has fully recovered yet.

He made a mockery of our politics. Out of our politicians.

He's objectively worse off now than before going in, and all the old players are still at the top.

the gop is self imploding on some 4d chess to own the woke libs

objectively?

I dont think it was realistic to believe he would be able to get rid of any important career politicians..

But he sure as **** showed that the emperor's have no clothes.

Originally Posted by uno

objectively?

I dont think it was realistic to believe he would be able to get rid of any important career politicians..

But he sure as **** showed that the emperor's have no clothes.

I meant he's worse off in his personal brand and social status. Possibly financially worse off too.

He also hasn't effected any political change, other than deepening the vitriolic partisanship.

IMO anyway.

Originally Posted by amRam

Political lifers. Trump's failing was thinking he'd storm into politics like a bull in a china shop and wreck everybody. Except it turned out to be an amateur joining a professional fight and getting his **** pushed in.

QFT

Trump is up 35 points compared to any other Republican including DeSantis. If DeSantis doesn't run that goes higher.
The President is speaking today.
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That doesn't mean the Vindsters of the world can't steal his victory again.

Originally Posted by amRam

I meant he's worse off in his personal brand and social status. Possibly financially worse off too.

He also hasn't effected any political change, other than deepening the vitriolic partisanship.

IMO anyway.

Hes still an ex-President.

That alone makes him better off after than before imo. He'd have barely been a footnote in history. Hes in there forever now. They'll be talking about him like we do ****ty Roman emperors in a couple hundred years

No doubt. I would've voted for him both times. Nevertheless, it seems the president is a joke compared to the power of the "deep state" establishment.

Why didn't he order the Deep State to murder itself when he was in charge of the Deep State

Originally Posted by blackpeople

the gop is self imploding on some 4d chess to own the woke libs

See, it's trying to communicate with us again. Anyone know what it's trying to say? Maybe it's broken. Or, retarded. Prolly just retarded.

Originally Posted by Tyco

The establishment did not support the Afghanistan withdrawal, especially standard Republicans. If Trump didn't initiate it; Biden would have never been able to do it.

yeah putting the guy who screams let's goto war for 20 years straight is adding diversity to the west wing


guys been wanting to bomb Iran for 20+ years

Wonder what suggestion Bolton's gonna make

In 2018, Bolton requested that the Pentagon provide the White House with options for military strikes against Iran. According to the New York Times, Bolton "intensified the administration's policy of isolating and pressuring Iran***8212;reflecting an animus against Iran's leaders that dates back to his days as an official in the George W. Bush administration. As a private citizen, he later called for military strikes on Iran, as well as regime change."[165]

never could have guessed this