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Esteban_Villa
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I'm going to be curious to see if companies eventually start to get subsidies for maintaining human workers over machines
a new form of welfare emerging. either that or a universal income. I was re-reading about the rise of automation - apparently scientists over the last 2 years have come into agreement that we are going to start losing jobs due to new technology as opposed to what technology did say in the late 1800s...create a deluge of jobs with not enough bodies.
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in my eyes: he like petraeus but isn't very seriously considering him for a major post, but is angling to put the leaking of national secrets back into the press given he was crucified over it while clinton wasn't.
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The same could be said of low wage jobs in cities too. Self-ordering is already taking over fast food, automated kitchens, etc. That doesn't mean that he can't find ways to bring jobs to areas that are affected, they just might not be manufacturing jobs. The real point though was that he at least vocalized his intention to try, whereas Hillary did not. Saying "Those jobs aren't coming back, get used to being poor!" doesn't really solve anything, it just comes across as elitist.
Skipperlipicus
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I'm pretty sure he used the words I promise, not I'll try. I think that's why these next years will be so interesting - it's really difficult to deliver on that.
How will the rustbelt react if they don't think their lot in life has improved under this administration? Perhaps 4 years from now we'll see another bernie sanders type grab up their votes.
BionicBooger
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By The Numbers: The U.S. Has 12 Million Manufacturing Workers; China Has Ten Times That Number -- 114 Million
That's a lot of people who have not yet been replaced by robots. I think there is still plenty of potential to employ many Americans by making products in the U.S.
That's a lot of people who have not yet been replaced by robots. I think there is still plenty of potential to employ many Americans by making products in the U.S.
SuicideSnowman
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There's going to be a lot of jobs for people wanting to build the wall.
havax
Super Genius
fucking racist bigot
Maybe..or he doesn't give a fuck.
By most accounts, Petraeus is a fucking boss.. he'd probably be awesome for the position.
It sounds awesome on paper or in a campaign speech, until the price of that reality sets in.
How much would an all-American iPhone cost?
Americans will not start paying 3x - 4x for products just because they were sourced and assembled in the US, and neither will the rest of the world.
Skipperlipicus
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Perhaps - but who would buy these products? If you could choose between two prices for the same product it's in your best interest to choose the cheapest product.
Manufacturing jobs moved away because they can be done elsewhere for cheaper.
I'm having a hard time imagining a scenario where we are somehow able to bring those jobs back while at the same time compensating the workers with a livable wage. Our labor costs would push up the price of our goods and no one would want to buy them because they could get the same thing for much cheaper from a place like China.
Esteban_Villa
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If more people had higher paying jobs making products instead of burgers, there would be a greater ability to pay for the higher cost products. A lot of decrease in business regulations but in accounting and auditing and the OSHA type stuff (push liability off the business onto...?) for the figured to line up.
Dude... The US makes up 4% of the global population. Is your US manufactured product, which costs 3x more than an identical Chinese product, going to sell anywhere else in the world simply because it was made in the good ol' US of A?
Come down to Earth, friend.
Skipperlipicus
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:lolwut:
Hope Petraeus gets Sec State so Trump can troll Romney some more.
"Oh.. you were so close again, but you're still a loser in 2nd place"
Yes I'm aware. Americans are fine with the use of veritable slave labor so long as they don't have to see it happening. The point still stands, however. Americans are willing to pay more for a product that they perceive as superior, even if it's not. The question becomes, how much more are they willing to pay in order to get more Americans back to work, or if we need to come up with new means of employing the large swaths of America that are currently out of work?
Saying "The jobs aren't coming back" is not a solution, it's a defeatist mentality. Today it's manufacturing, but tomorrow service jobs will be automated too.
Saying "The jobs aren't coming back" is not a solution, it's a defeatist mentality. Today it's manufacturing, but tomorrow service jobs will be automated too.