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Originally Posted by Code4
so on which point was he wrong?
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Well, all of them. It's stupid that in a discussion of IDEAS, he chose to change the subject to *me*, but ok. First, I'm not an Obama supporter, as I would rather have someone from the Green or American Socialist Party in office. The rest of his assertions are opinions, "low information voter," "stupid." As far as his assertion that I'll "probably" vote for Obama again, I'll let the people with a knowledge of term limits determine how intelligent a statement that was.
I think what he, and most conservatives don't understand about the buyers remorse that many liberals have with Obama is that he hasn't been liberal enough to suit us. When I say I approve of the job he's doing, I qualify that by pointing out that I have no alternative at this point. Romney would have been worse, and McCain a LOT worse. When I say I'm not happy with him and conservatives say, "HA! YA SEE?" I just have to roll my eyes because they completely misunderstand why I'm not happy. I wanted our kids pulled from the Middle East a lot faster than this--have we pulled them at all? I wanted the black prisons in Eastern Europe and Guantanamo Bay (as well as all the associated torturing) shut down. I want the USA to start examining human rights issues in countries like Saudi Arabia before making deals on the order of "you sell us cheap oil, we sell you cheap weapons, nudge wink." The US should hold itself to a higher moral standard than openly trading with a country that beheads adulterers.
About the only point the conservatives and I agree on is the tightening of the TSA in airports, and the wiretapping/email surveillance bull****. It started sometime in the W administration, yet they didn't get mad about it until they learned Obama was continuing the same practice as Bush II. My own opinion is that it was an outrage then, an outrage now, and I'm a little sad that it's no longer an issue the media seems to care about. Americans have the attention span of gnats.