Again, all you can do is just talk out your ass.
I love your argument that the free market would have done it!
Free market has done it. UPS and FEDEX both have hybrid/fuel-cell vehicles.
Well thats the thing. We don't need to debate whats better or worse. We can do both!
Why don't you want to do both?
Yes, as i added above... the free market is doing precisely what im arguing and the UG govt oughta be putting its weight behind support these dynamics even more. We should be supporting massive scale overhauls in both public and private sectors. Small investment with huge outcomes.
Welcome to current energy events, triple.
I'd rather we spend all our time and money further developing alternative energies.
Yeah, I dont think anyone thinks the government should pay for drilling. But I dont think thats an issue anywhere in the US. And I think you shoudl allow businesses to decide whether something is a good investment or not.
OK so you are fine w/ allowing more drilling on land.
Why are you against offshore drilling? And don't just say its pointless. It isn't your money that would be spent. I think there are lots of stupid stores and businesses around, but I dont ask to ban them because I think they're pointless.
ps... just wait till we all realize how much oil is under the ice melting in greenland.
Yeah, I dont think anyone thinks the government should pay for drilling. But I dont think thats an issue anywhere in the US. And I think you shoudl allow businesses to decide whether something is a good investment or not.
OK so you are fine w/ allowing more drilling on land.
Why are you against offshore drilling? And don't just say its pointless. It isn't your money that would be spent. I think there are lots of stupid stores and businesses around, but I dont ask to ban them because I think they're pointless.
now that's the attitude!
Sorry, missed it.
I think pretending that the oil industry knows what's best for the public interest as an investment is pretty obviously folly.
I'm fine with the ANWaR drilling mostly because i think they can do it in fairly environmentally harmless ways and it would shut a lot of retards up who truly would feel better at night thinking we're doing everything we can. It also would create some wealth, although i'd rather us tap into these reserves after we hit peek oil and once it's clearly become a "rare" commodity.
I'm against the offshore drilling because it truly would do harm to many other industries and is absolutely unnecessary at this point. I'd be happy if the same people screaming for this also wanted to upgrade our refineries... but oddly enough nobody seems to care much about THAT.
Overall, i think these efforts are pointless because it's tossing a cup of water into a barrel that's drying up anyways. We need to focus more on alternative energy, especially during this recession where we can juice the biggest and more radical changes.
So you think that the environmental damage would be greater than the benefits from it, or that we should wait until it becomes even more valuable.
OK, just wanted to make sure why you didnt' like it.
I don't know why you fill your posts with so much irrelevant information and stuff that does not pertain to the question asked of you.
I've concluded that there's going to be a massive crunch in our lifetime, with staggering political and economic implications... around "peak oil."
The sooner we, as a nation, get out of this oil driven energy dependence the better. Hence... my attitude is that even worrying about ANWaR and shit is pointless. If you know you need to quit smoking, you dont waste time and money arguing over cheaper cigs. And this drilling wont even get us cheaper gas.
But this is what I dont get:
You claim that offshore drilling/anwr drilling wont affect prices or produce a huge amount of oil, which is probably essentially true. Thus, the desire to get away from oil in general will still be just as strong. so in terms of coming up w/ new technology and energy sources, drilling would make no difference, in your own words!
But it would make some jobs, produce some income, produce some taxes (which can be put to develop more alt. energy).
You talk about how it is "pointless". Well drilling each individual well on land is probably pointless too, then. Should we not allow oil copmanies to drill anywhere anymore?
Ya, im not opposed to the ANWaR drilling for that reason.
I think off-shore drilling down in florida and shit would HARM fishing, tourism and generally be not worth it. The wealth created isnt worth the downsides, especially since this entire oil game is on the way out.
I'm actually fairly sure Europe and America to a large extent will have changed their ways by the time our oil reserves start drying up that it will not effect us that much. Most of the world except maybe China and of course the middle east will probably not get hit too hard. What the fuck is the middle east going to do when they run out of the only thing that basically everything else services?