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1 - 01-12-2010, 22:51
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http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...e&n=Mootaindew

Any suggestions on gems? Still learning sham, wish I didn't have so much arp on gear but I dont get to raid with my current guild very much so I take what I can get with pugs. Still waiting on some boots for HoR or some where...

I don't read very much of EJ, I've glanced now and then and their BiS seems to be out of date I think.

I want to try to get the most out of my char...forums I've read seem to go half and half on the ap vs haste dispute with moving and stationary fights. Just wanted to get your opinion, thanks!
 
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EnhSim and Rawr.Enhance are all you need, with some reading on EJ.

http://enhsim.codeplex.com/

http://rawr.codeplex.com/

EDIT** Glanced over your armory, everything looks all right except that Totem. Get Quaking Earth or Avalance
 
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If you are using him for raiding, you can drop the 1 pt in Imp. SS and the 1 pt in Elemental Focus and toss them in Improved Shields, you'll never run out of mana in a raid anyways and it will synergize well with your t9-2p bonus.

Since you're stacking haste I see nothing wrong with your totem tbh, and enhsim will probably net it nearly identical to QE.

Your sham looks good! You could swap out the WF Glyph for the Lit Shield glyph which will further synergize your spec including your t9-2p as well, I did that and saw a decent gain.
 
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ah ok thanks. Yeah I got lucky and a spot opened up in icc last night. My mana rarely went below 30% so guess I'll switch out the spec.

I hit 7787dps on fester and around 6000 on rotface when the fights ended, does this seem about right or do I need to work on my priorities a bit? Also is it worth it to work in flame shock into my rotation?
 
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also, is there a point to where I want to stop stacking haste and go for ap? or just go all out?

currently sitting at around 657.

with all procs going my weapon speed goes to 1.29 and with lust to 1.00
 
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I'm not familiar 100% w Enh shamans but a buddy of mine was a pretty decent one, pretty sure he incorporated FS into his rotation. That was a couple patches ago so I'm sure things may have changed.
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joemomma5000 View Post
Since you're stacking haste I see nothing wrong with your totem tbh, and enhsim will probably net it nearly identical to QE.
Yeah except you're wrong.

DPS with current set up: 8588
Code:
EnhSim version 1.9.5.8

................................................................................

MH:
miss                1361091        9.40%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            3476060        24.00%
hit                 1859286        12.83%
crit                7790099        53.77%
average ap          7931.25        
clip                0              0.00%

MH Windfury:
procs/hits          14.76%
procs/swings        13.54%
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 1923248        43.24%
crit                2524852        56.76%
average ap          7923.47        

MH Storsmtrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 842638         43.39%
crit                1099417        56.61%
average ap          7911.13        

OH:
miss                1359944        9.39%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            3472687        23.97%
hit                 1860576        12.84%
crit                7793333        53.80%
average ap          7930.16        
clip                0              0.00%

OH Flametongue:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 9974228        59.74%
crit                6722546        40.26%
average sp          2978.34        

OH Stormstrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 841339         43.32%
crit                1100716        56.68%
average ap          7932.19        

Earth Shock:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 806238         59.72%
crit                543689         40.28%
average sp          2972.47        

Flame Shock:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 478139         59.72%
crit                322445         40.28%
average sp          2978.69        
dots hit            4684107        100.00%
dots crit           0              0.00%
average dot sp      2979.21        

Lava Lash:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 703493         43.21%
crit                924630         56.79%
average ap          7882.93        

Lightning Bolt:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 1597918        59.73%
crit                1077495        40.27%
average sp          2981.18        

Fire Nova:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 1154615        59.67%
crit                780362         40.33%
average sp          2972.55        

Lightning Shield:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 3803583        100.00%
crit                0              0.00%
average sp          2979.13        

Spirit Wolves:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            2009598        24.01%
hit                 5399082        64.50%
crit                962516         11.50%
average ap          8027.45        

Magma Totem:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 3550946        59.73%
crit                2394277        40.27%
average sp          2970.09        

Fire Elemental Melee:
miss                93083          8.00%
dodge               49558          4.26%
glancing            279496         24.03%
hit                 705929         60.69%
crit                35075          3.02%

Fire Elemental Fire Shield:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 1572734        91.97%
crit                137369         8.03%

Fire Elemental Fire Nova:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 617202         91.93%
crit                54206          8.07%

Fire Elemental Fire Blast:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 1034110        91.99%
crit                89996          8.01%

Fire Elemental stats:
average ap          8936.14        
average sp          3281.54        
MPS                 87.43          
MPCooldown          10491.97       
Out of mana time    5.33%
MRPCooldown         2704.61        
MRPS                22.65          

Fire Elemental      MRPS without overregen
mana regen          0.65      2.88%
judgement of wisdom 21.89     97.12%


Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM                 52.31
efficiency          85.25%

flurry uptime                  92.17%
unleashed rage uptime          100.00%
elemental devastation uptime   84.54%
mh enchant uptime              51.06%
oh enchant uptime              45.85%
stormstrike debuff uptime      79.31%
flame shock uptime             78.35%
lightning shield uptime        98.58%
magma totem uptime             67.21%
fire elemental uptime          28.54%

trinket2 uptime                18.73%
totem uptime                   80.34%

                    MRPS without overregen
mana regen          -0.00     -0.00%
mp5                 16.75     8.65%
replenishment       39.31     20.31%
unrelenting storm   0.00      0.00%
judgement of wisdom 95.79     49.50%
shamanistic rage    0.01      0.00%
mana potion         0.00      0.00%
misc                0.00      0.00%
stormstrike         41.68     21.54%

                    DPS                 PPM       MPS
white               2811.11   32.73%    96.58
windfury            1024.55   11.93%    7.41
flametongue         714.43    8.32%     55.66
stormstrike         428.98    4.99%     6.47      35.67     17.64%
lava lash           241.24    2.81%     5.43      10.85     5.37%
magma totem         413.00    4.81%     2.42      44.94     22.22%
earth shock         325.18    3.79%     4.50      17.54     8.67%
flame shock         221.55    2.58%     2.67      9.80      4.85%
lightning bolt      922.51    10.74%    8.92      52.21     25.82%
fire nova           348.87    4.06%     6.45      25.66     12.69%
lightning shield    363.80    4.24%     1.81      0.00      0.00%
spirit wolves       340.71    3.97%     0.40      3.27      1.62%
fire elemental      432.93    5.04%     0.14      2.26      1.12%
  melee             203.09    46.91%    3.88
  fire shield       15.76     3.64%     5.70
  fire nova         111.99    25.87%    2.24
  fire blast        102.09    23.58%    3.75

DPS                 8588.87
MPS                 202.21
MP2min              24265.56
MRPS                213.74
Out of mana time    0.00%

elapsed simulation time: 5000.00h
elapsed real time: 25.94s
simulation speed: 693962x
DPS with Avalanche: 8650 (~62 DPS upgrade)
Code:
EnhSim version 1.9.5.8

................................................................................

MH:
miss                1299208        9.39%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            3320378        23.99%
hit                 1787608        12.91%
crit                7434295        53.71%
average ap          8408.00        
clip                0              0.00%

MH Windfury:
procs/hits          14.88%
procs/swings        13.65%
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 1862533        43.28%
crit                2441091        56.72%
average ap          8399.21        

MH Storsmtrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 832805         43.43%
crit                1084623        56.57%
average ap          8380.31        

OH:
miss                1297616        9.37%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            3322517        24.00%
hit                 1787826        12.92%
crit                7433530        53.70%
average ap          8400.66        
clip                0              0.00%

OH Flametongue:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 9616180        59.75%
crit                6477605        40.25%
average sp          3119.63        

OH Stormstrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 831807         43.38%
crit                1085621        56.62%
average ap          8402.19        

Earth Shock:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 797807         59.79%
crit                536643         40.21%
average sp          3113.58        

Flame Shock:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 479269         59.72%
crit                323224         40.28%
average sp          3120.02        
dots hit            4694748        100.00%
dots crit           0              0.00%
average dot sp      3120.53        

Lava Lash:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 705183         43.20%
crit                927301         56.80%
average ap          8351.09        

Lightning Bolt:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 1537626        59.74%
crit                1036039        40.26%
average sp          3122.94        

Fire Nova:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 1148618        59.71%
crit                775114         40.29%
average sp          3113.46        

Lightning Shield:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 3669735        100.00%
crit                0              0.00%
average sp          3121.15        

Spirit Wolves:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            2007220        24.00%
hit                 5394372        64.50%
crit                961596         11.50%
average ap          8496.26        

Magma Totem:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 3556119        59.79%
crit                2391959        40.21%
average sp          3111.24        

Fire Elemental Melee:
miss                91894          7.96%
dodge               49032          4.25%
glancing            277007         23.98%
hit                 702349         60.81%
crit                34762          3.01%

Fire Elemental Fire Shield:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 1573941        92.02%
crit                136444         7.98%

Fire Elemental Fire Nova:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 617339         91.96%
crit                53953          8.04%

Fire Elemental Fire Blast:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 1034959        92.04%
crit                89541          7.96%

Fire Elemental stats:
average ap          9406.48        
average sp          3422.34        
MPS                 87.45          
MPCooldown          10494.44       
Out of mana time    5.34%
MRPCooldown         2706.82        
MRPS                22.67          

Fire Elemental      MRPS without overregen
mana regen          0.65      2.89%
judgement of wisdom 21.90     97.11%


Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM                 50.34
efficiency          85.20%

flurry uptime                  93.72%
unleashed rage uptime          100.00%
elemental devastation uptime   83.96%
mh enchant uptime              49.64%
oh enchant uptime              44.64%
stormstrike debuff uptime      80.11%
flame shock uptime             78.53%
lightning shield uptime        98.59%
magma totem uptime             67.14%
fire elemental uptime          28.54%

trinket2 uptime                18.73%
totem uptime                   100.00%

                    MRPS without overregen
mana regen          -0.00     -0.00%
mp5                 16.79     8.83%
replenishment       39.43     20.72%
unrelenting storm   0.00      0.00%
judgement of wisdom 92.66     48.71%
shamanistic rage    0.01      0.00%
mana potion         0.00      0.00%
misc                0.00      0.00%
stormstrike         41.35     21.74%

                    DPS                 PPM       MPS
white               2802.49   32.4%     92.28
windfury            1030.11   11.91%    7.17
flametongue         708.93    8.2%      53.65
stormstrike         441.82    5.11%     6.39      35.21     17.67%
lava lash           252.43    2.92%     5.44      10.89     5.46%
magma totem         421.75    4.88%     2.39      44.44     22.30%
earth shock         330.25    3.82%     4.45      17.51     8.78%
flame shock         228.75    2.64%     2.67      9.83      4.93%
lightning bolt      919.64    10.63%    8.58      50.30     25.24%
fire nova           353.36    4.09%     6.41      25.59     12.84%
lightning shield    362.96    4.2%      1.75      0.00      0.00%
spirit wolves       351.80    4.07%     0.40      3.27      1.64%
fire elemental      445.84    5.15%     0.14      2.26      1.13%
  melee             210.78    47.28%    3.85
  fire shield       15.99     3.59%     5.70
  fire nova         114.95    25.78%    2.24
  fire blast        104.12    23.35%    3.75

DPS                 8650.12
MPS                 199.31
MP2min              23917.21
MRPS                209.60
Out of mana time    0.00%
Both sims were run for standard_single_target simulating a 7 min fight.

And here are your current ep values with your gear
Code:
EnhSim version 1.9.5.8

Spell hit + EP range goes past cap by 2.04486% (53.6406 hit rating).
Expertise is past cap, EP expertise test will be skipped.

Calculating EP values...
Calculation 1/14: Baseline DPS calculated.
Calculation 2/14: Attack power calculated.
Calculation 3/14: Crit(physical) calculated.
Calculation 4/14: Crit(spell) calculated.
Calculation 5/14: Hit calculated.
Calculation 6/14: Expertise skipped.
Calculation 7/14: Haste calculated.
Calculation 8/14: Armor Penetration calculated.
Calculation 9/14: Spellpower calculated.
Calculation 10/14: Mh Dps calculated.
Calculation 11/14: Oh Dps calculated.
Calculation 12/14: Mana calculated.
Calculation 13/14: Spirit calculated.
Calculation 14/14: Mp5 calculated.


EP                        value     DPS       total DPS      difference

baseline                                      8588.39
ap                        1.00      0.65      8640.77        52.39
crit rating               1.69      1.11      8632.69        44.30
hit rating                1.66      1.09      8631.92        43.53
expertise rating          0.00      0.00      0.00           -8588.39
haste rating              1.89      1.24      8637.97        49.58
armor penetration rating  1.45      0.95      8626.48        38.10
spellpower                0.96      0.63      8617.23        28.84
mh dps                    4.92      3.22      8612.56        24.18
oh dps                    1.38      0.90      8595.16        6.77
strength                  1.10      
agility                   1.76      
intelligence              1.08      
spirit                    -0.14     -0.09     8584.76        -3.63
mana                      -0.01     -0.01     8582.63        -5.75
mp5                       -0.22     -0.14     8582.61        -5.77

( Pawn: v1: "EnhSim": Ap=1.00, CritRating=1.69, HitRating=1.66, HasteRating=1.89, ExpertiseRating=0.00, ArmorPenetration=1.45, SpellDamage=0.96, MainHandDps=4.92, OffHandDps=1.38, Strength=1.10, Agility=1.76, Intellect=1.08, Spirit=-0.14, Mana=-0.01, Mp5=-0.22 )
http://www.lootrank.com/wow/wr.asp?Cla=64&Str=1.10&mh=1.89&dps=4.92&mp5=-0.22&mcr=1.69&odps=1.38&spd=0.96&Agi=1.76&mhit=1.66&Int=1.08&Spi=-0.14&map=1.00&arp=1.45&Exp=0.00

elapsed simulation time: 65000.00h
elapsed real time: 335.48s
simulation speed: 697497x
I've stacked haste on my Enh Shammy and will continue to do so until another stat outweighs the Haste DPS gain. The [Herkuml War Token] is currently the best trinket for us. I'd just replace your other trinket with one of the following:
[Whispering Fanged Skull]
[Comet's Trail]
[Deathbringer's Will]

That with the assumption that you know the ability priorities to use will maximize your dps. Also, there are some very useful (making it almost brainless) addons for knowing what your priorities are. If you want this, get the Shock & Awe addon.

 
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Originally Posted by 1slob18c1 View Post
Yeah except you're wrong.

I've stacked haste on my Enh Shammy and will continue to do so until another stat outweighs the Haste DPS gain. The [Herkuml War Token] is currently the best trinket for us. I'd just replace your other trinket with one of the following:
[Whispering Fanged Skull]
[Comet's Trail]
[Deathbringer's Will]

That with the assumption that you know the ability priorities to use will maximize your dps. Also, there are some very useful (making it almost brainless) addons for knowing what your priorities are. If you want this, get the Shock & Awe addon.

Yeah but you compared it to Avalanche, not QE. My point was for the badges it'd cost, there's no point in getting QE, focus on something else. I'm too lazy to input all his **** into enhsim to test QE but I would imagine (barring him being drastically different from everyone else) that depending on fight, his current totem will either be identical, very slightly up, or very slightly down.
 
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Initially I said either QE or Avalanche, I just tested what is better of the 2 in my opinion (being the avalanche). I just simmed it with QE and you're right, the dps gain/loss is minimal.

Currently, the BiS gear uses the [Bizuri's Totem of Shattered Ice]
 
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