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just looking for a nice dps spec for rogue, im all subtly right now but it doesnt feel as though i do enough dps

btw, im in the 40s, nothing special
 
From RogueSpot.com

Combat Swords Leveling Build

Here’s the order that you should take them:




1/2 Improved Sinister Strike – level 10

2/2 Improved Sinister Strike – level 11

1/5 Lightning Reflexes – level 12

2/5 Lightning Reflexes – level 13

3/5 Lightning Reflexes – level 14

4/5 Lightning Reflexes – level 15

5/5 Lightning Reflexes – level 16

1/5 Precision – level 17

2/5 Precision – level 18

3/5 Precision – level 19

4/5 Precision – level 20

5/5 Precision – level 21

1/5 Deflection – level 22

2/5 Deflection – level 23

3/5 Deflection – level 24

1/5 Dual Wield Specialization – level 25

2/5 Dual Wield Specialization – level 26

3/5 Dual Wield Specialization – level 27

4/5 Dual Wield Specialization – level 28

5/5 Dual Wield Specialization – level 29

1/1 Blade Flurry – level 30

1/5 Sword Specialization – level 31

2/5 Sword Specialization – level 32

3/5 Sword Specialization – level 33

4/5 Sword Specialization – level 34

5/5 Sword Specialization – level 35

1/3 Aggression – level 36

2/3 Aggression – level 37

3/3 Aggression – level 38

1/2 Endurance – level 39

1/1 Adrenaline Rush – level 40

1/2 Vitality – level 41

2/2 Vitality – level 42

4/5 Deflection – level 43

2/2 Endurance – level 44

1/5 Combat Potency – level 45

2/5 Combat Potency – level 46

3/5 Combat Potency – level 47

4/5 Combat Potency – level 48

5/5 Combat Potency – level 49

1/1 Surprise Attacks – level 50

1/3 Improved Eviscerate – level 51

2/3 Improved Eviscerate – level 52

3/3 Improved Eviscerate – level 53

1/5 Malice – level 54

2/5 Malice – level 55

3/5 Malice – level 56

4/5 Malice – level 57

5/5 Malice – level 58

1/2 Murder – level 59

2/2 Murder – level 60

1/5 Lethality – level 61

2/5 Lethality – level 62

3/5 Lethality – level 63

4/5 Lethality – level 64

5/5 Lethality – level 65

1/1 Relentless Strikes level 66

1/3 Ruthlessness – level 67

2/3 Ruthlessness – level 68

3/3 Ruthlessness – level 69

1/5 Improved Poisons – level 70
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if you know what you are doing combat is very very strong in pvp (arena) but i am not sure with how shadow step is the way it is now.
 
PM Pessi, pretend to be ignorant and willing to learn and he may not act like a total asshole about it. He seems to be the rogue Source around here. I kept my thumb o the rogue pulse for a while having a 70 Mut-build that hasn't been played in a while. I keep hearing Combat is more or less the way to go for leveling and PvP/PvE (if done right) but there are some who still do Assass and Sub. I guess I'm just waiting for something to come along to beat out Combat, I did it for a bit and I felt more like a leather-wearing Fury warrior with a reverse rage bar.
 
I leveled as combat; for just pure non-stop killing it is simply the best. Pre 60 as long as you have a big 1h sword (you should be looking to get your thrash blade mid 40s) and adren rush you should be able to steamroll anyone in your BG brackets. Here's roughly what I would use:

Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

This gives you tonnes of power and versatility to disarm mobs, nuke multiple mobs easily, and to continue with nonstop killing. In my 40s I would pop evasion, blade flurry and adren rush and kill 4 mobs at once. Use your cooldowns as much as possible, don't hold on to them as saving throws. Start by filling out the combat tree to AR, and then fill the Ass. tree. After 50 I would continue to make my way to Cold Blood (personally) simply because I like the pre-endgame burst, picking up imp. evis as well.

Honestly Blade Flurry + Adren Rush are the best talents possible to level, there simply is no other choice. You could level as Hemo just fine, but if you want to solo almost every quest, go combat.
 
That reminds me, I haven't heard anything since they changed the Disarm rules in PvP. Are people actually giving up their enchants to be disarm-immune or are they too valuable and just take teh 50% reduction talent?
 
I had a lot of fun doing Mut from 60 - 70, but fuck all if you had to kill shit that was immune to poison. That tanks your DPS stupidly, but when ganking/attacking other players it was pretty fun. I have found the burst damage can scare some players too, did that to a Combat rogue and he gouged/ran/vanished before I could get in a finishing move. But to be fair I don't think he was used to PvPing too much. Besides I love it when people run away from me, that's usually when I save Cold Blood so I can pop a double Mut crit. Which can actually hurt pretty badly if you have good knives.
 
hate to jump on the bandwagon but yeah combat swords are awesome. at 70 as a combat rogue i have yet to be outdamaged even by other rogues (dagger, subt. build came closest but by end of dungeon still down by over 100 k damage).
 
DistortedRiff said:
It's not a bandwagon, it's just the unfortunate truth.
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Pretty much, all the 61 - 70 rogues I see in outlands are Combat. The only deviation they have is some are swords and some are maces. The maces are usually the babysitters who are DW'ing S1 maces though. It's usually 41 - 51 in Combat, and the rest smattered around Assassination. Either they focus on +crit and +dmg with the remaining points or they jump defensive and grab +dodge and +parry.

I'm hoping for the day (if it comes) where Sub or Assass will finally be more viable and there'll be a choice instead of Combat. Given how rogues are now though I doubt it'll happen. Knives are for fun and kids, and if you want to really do shit you take swords and maces and be a mini-Fury warrior.
 
yep, combat swords for leveling is definitely best. pvp specs are up to your own play style though. i'm going to give mutilate a shot at 59 in the BG's just to compare it to sub. i've been out of the game for awhile and don't have experience with mutilate yet. ;)
 
I've been mutilate for a while now but I'm gonna try sub. I've really liked mutilate but I guess I HAVE to switch in order to advance in arena from what I've read... meh. Sucks when you're kinda forced to go 'the' way and not 'your' way :shrug:
 
I'm bumping this rather than making a new thread. I sum up.

I'm winging back around to my 70 alliance rogue, she's still in quest blues and a pair of Ced's Carvers. So I'm gonna start the grind for S1/Vind. My question is as a rogue should I opt to get the weapons first? And if I choose to continue Combat Daggers (I specced that because of the knives) or Sub should would the carvers be enough to hold out on getting some armor first?
 
You'd probably be better off grinding to the honor cap 75k, and buying S1 pieces from there and grinding up to 75 again. With the new patch coming soon (S2 for honor).
 
Osiris said:
You'd probably be better off grinding to the honor cap 75k, and buying S1 pieces from there and grinding up to 75 again. With the new patch coming soon (S2 for honor).
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They've moving S2 gear to Honor in 2.4? I didn't hear that, but if that is the cae don't they have a theoretical S4 to replace S2 in the arena vendor?
 
I never had a problem talking or asking IPPON about anything. In fact, we used to flame people together on the rogue boards. I didn't even know it was pessi at the time.
 
Feannag said:
They've moving S2 gear to Honor in 2.4? I didn't hear that, but if that is the cae don't they have a theoretical S4 to replace S2 in the arena vendor?
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He is assuming that S4 is starting along with the patch... No one really knows yet. Blue said they would announce S4 at least a month ahead of the start to allow people to hoard points etc.

I'd say get the Vindicator gear first. If S4 starts soon you'd be better off spending your honor on vind gear and having it slightly out-classed in S4 by new non-set pvp epics than to be in S1 when you could have had S2. :shrug:
 
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