I read bits of this stuff and frankly I think you may have been brainwashed. I'm atheist and have a pretty good understanding of christianity after being educated in a religious school most of my childhood life. To think an all powerful being is conscious of what you and I are doing right now is kind of narcissistic. The concept of heavenly reward, and hell for naughty people is primitive. I'm serious about the possibility of him being a result of Mary being artificially inseminated by a alien. I think life got here originally as bacteria off a meteorite. Are you into this "They put dinosaur bones here to test our faith?" cause apparently there are people who believe that ****. That is concerning. I think the most interesting part of the bible is basically around Paul the Apostle.

Here is an image of what may have happened to Paul in the desert.



That was apparently around 2000 years ago. Some versions of the bible read just like a UFO encounter for the desert event.

Originally Posted by cael

guys what's so bad about irrational beliefs?

now you're just blaming religion for low iq

bowing down before a former president ain't the worst thing these people could be doing

Was watching In-Touch ministries again this Sunday morning. He was talking about Adam and Eve, the garden with the forbidden fruit. Eve takes a bite because the Devil told her it would be OK. They run away, hide behind another tree, but God finds them. The rest is history where all hell breaks loose.

This is the super power stories I can't believe. That all humans came from 2 people that ate the forbidden fruit.
Adam and Eve - Wikipedia

see ngfm is a great example of what you get when you take a diehard believer and shake them off religion

they don't wake up the next day and start inventing calculus

yeah you're right we should just give up on trying to educate people

****ing Newton can stand on the shoulder of an earthworm

Guys let's educate people by being completely ignorant and condescending

Originally Posted by Amadeus

yeah you're right we should just give up on trying to educate people

****ing Newton can stand on the shoulder of an earthworm

i don't have it in me to make more effort posts explaining to validuzes like you and vanster that religion invented widespread literacy and education and that religious schools remain among the most successful in the world

anyone in the us who doesn't put their kids in a private religious school is basically guilty of child abuse

seriously is it 2006 or something let's all watch christopher hitchens totally dunk on a rabbi!!

it's probably genetic that some people are vulnerable to being dogmatic in their beliefs

which means they are stupid and easily manipulated

pretty much anyone that took a gender studies class and left feeling shook is the same type of person that sees joel osteen in person and feels the same way

Originally Posted by bowl of blood

i don't have it in me to make more effort posts explaining to validuzes like you and vanster that religion invented widespread literacy and education and that religious schools remain among the most successful in the world

anyone in the us who doesn't put their kids in a private religious school is basically guilty of child abuse

seriously is it 2006 or something let's all watch christopher hitchens totally dunk on a rabbi!!

and remind me, who was it who did their level best to stop people from translating the bible because they didn't want the average joe to be able to read it for himself?

who are the ones currently campaigning to present creationism as an equally respectable alternative to science in schools?

why, you're right, that was religion too

but the more important point is that none of the activities you listed actually require religious belief. it just so happens that the churches were the ones who had the money, power, and infrastructure to be able to afford them

do let me know if you come up with a positive benefit of religion that cannot also be achieved via secular means

Originally Posted by NoGodForMe

Was watching In-Touch ministries again this Sunday morning. He was talking about Adam and Eve, the garden with the forbidden fruit. Eve takes a bite because the Devil told her it would be OK. They run away, hide behind another tree, but God finds them. The rest is history where all hell breaks loose.

This is the super power stories I can't believe. That all humans came from 2 people that ate the forbidden fruit.
Adam and Eve - Wikipedia

Why do you watch that?

Secularism has a long long history of success across human cultures

Almost a century!!! And only like a few hundred million killed in a handful of genocides on their watch. SUCCESS

Bump.

Originally Posted by Data

Bump.

It's all superstitious nonsense

ikr, it's not like anything of value was ever built on that book

just some silly nonsense

amen brother

#MAGABIBLE

Originally Posted by amRam

ikr, it's not like anything of value was ever built on that book

just some silly nonsense

Control is definitely a positive thing.


We're coming up on Christmas and I can't wait to see the signs "he's the reason for the season" by people who don't know the reason they put up a Christmas tree, or wreaths on their doors etc.


Opiate of the masses.