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and just so you don't get me wrong

i believe the government could have prevented 9/11.

the problem was incompetence, and not conspiracy.
 
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Would you like interviews of these people saying that 9-11 was an inside job?

Then would you believe it?


Them.. in their own words... you know.. former presidents of countrys saying 9-11 was an inside job.....

or.. are they crazy as well?
 
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omg an iceberg

icebergs are blue
 
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and just so you don't get me wrong

i believe the government could have prevented 9/11.

the problem was incompetence, and not conspiracy.
well that's a conspiracy in it's own right
 
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Governments are so incompetent (especially ours) that they allowed hijackers with boxcutters to outsmart,. not once, but 4 times in one day a multi-trillion dollar aerodefense system and the most well protected and surveyed place in the history of the world.

Sounds amusing to me.
 
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Would you like interviews of these people saying that 9-11 was an inside job?

Then would you believe it?


Them.. in their own words... you know.. former presidents of countrys saying 9-11 was an inside job.....

or.. are they crazy as well?
it takes a little more than people saying things over and over to convince me of anything

if they have crediblity or proof i'll listen

i've watched zeitgeist, i've watched loose change, i've read the 9/11 commission report

guess which one gave real evidence
 
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the government is involved in a conspiracy to keep itself incompetent?

well **** me i think you might have something there
 
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Governments are so incompetent (especially ours) that they allowed hijackers with boxcutters to outsmart,. not once, but 4 times in one day a multi-trillion dollar aerodefense system and the most well protected and surveyed place in the history of the world.

Sounds amusing to me.
You're totally right.

Governments are so competent that they could get thousands of americans to cause harm to their own nation for no apparent gain, without a single person coming forward and confessing their role in it.
 
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How did the comission report give real evidence?

If you have seriously done ANY research, the 9-11 comission report is literally a lie from beginning to end. That is really not an exaggeration.

What credibility do you need? You didn't even read the articles I gave you to read. Those people are extremely credible.

Don't you find it odd, in that vast, vast official report they don't mention that WTC 7 had collapsed?
 
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i never said false-flag terrorism didn't exist. i said this was not an act of false-flag terrorism.
You believe that false flag operations exist, but you don't believe this is one. Why?
 
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How did the comission report give real evidence?

If you have seriously done ANY research, the 9-11 comission report is literally a lie from beginning to end. That is really not an exaggeration.

What credibility do you need? You didn't even read the articles I gave you to read. Those people are extremely credible.

Don't you find it odd, in that vast, vast official report they don't mention that WTC 7 had collapsed?
The 9/11 commission reported on the build-up to and the response to the attacks of 9/11.

WTC7 was not attacked; its destruction was incidental.

People like to claim that WTC 7 is somehow evidence that the whole thing was planned.

What did anyone have to gain from blowing up a building with no one inside, hours after planes had collapsed the two towers?
 
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Would you like interviews of these people saying that 9-11 was an inside job?

Then would you believe it?


Them.. in their own words... you know.. former presidents of countrys saying 9-11 was an inside job.....

or.. are they crazy as well?
If they named someone specific (an engineer? a soldier?) doing something specific (setting off charges? coordinating...something? ), and then backed it up with evidence, then there would be something to believe, and then I could choose whether I believe it or not. But this is just bull****, is the problem.
 
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You believe that false flag operations exist, but you don't believe this is one. Why?
Jesus, I'm getting mobbed by conspiracy nuts here.

I don't believe it is a false-flag operation because of the unrealistic amount of planning and conspiracy it would take, not only at the highest levels of the government, but by individuals in lower levels as well.

Not to mention that I don't see what the government's gained from 9/11.

Temporary restriction of liberties? To gain... what? Everything points to misguided and incompetent individuals in the government ****ing things up.
 
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wait, an iceberg hit the 2 towers? I thought it hit a boat.
 
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If you don't see what our government has gained form 9-11 then ... holy ****.
 
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Btw, do you realize how long it takes to rig a building for demolition.

sigh
 
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wouldn't the iceberg melt before it could reach the target? It's still hot on 9-11.
 
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If you don't see what our government has gained form 9-11 then ... holy ****.
please elaborate
 
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wouldn't the iceberg melt before it could reach the target? It's still hot on 9-11.
Not if you sent it in on a train.

Add that to the eyewitness accounts of a locomotive-like commotion ("It was just like a freight train rolling through!"), and really the question becomes, why DON'T you believe a train hit the Two Towers?

I've written extensively on this.
 
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what has our government gained from 9/11?

it has certainly lost the trust of its citizens

our military is stretched thin and ineffective

oil has skyrocketed

the economy is crumbling

we did unite to destroy our liberties for about 2 months there but the laws are only getting more unpopular
 
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