StapleMammal1
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You took a year off work when you owed 8k? WTF is wrong with you?
Dude file for chap 7 bankruptcy and retire.
This is for you Trump voters.
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You took a year off work when you owed 8k? WTF is wrong with you?
Dude file for chap 7 bankruptcy and retire.
Seriously, even an open border globalist like me thinks you should get deported if you are convicted of a felony and undocumented. Banned permanently if the crime was violent.
Of course I also want to decriminalize most recreational drugs.
"War is the continuation of politics by other means."
- Carl von Clausewitz
you want to have a quote war or do you want to tell me why voting matters?
Esteban_Villa
Veteran XV
I see a lot of answers people are having through a firm libertarian and 1776 doctrinal-founded stance for those young democrats who went to Clinton's side through badgering and beating into not wanting to be labeled 'extremists' (racists).
Gays banned from being with their partners in hospitals since they aren't recognized? Pursuit of happiness, quit fucking with them and let be happy.
Tired of being represented by other interests far away from where you live and where most of you agree something should be different through multiple layers of self government. Let the states decide on a whole myriad of issues.
Large DoD and militarized police force that encumbers the budget? Decrease the standing Army.
Even open borders is in certain republican Libertarian thought..ones that decrease the importance of national identity which I argue against, but welcome arguments against.
The main issues that would need to be reconciled is gun control and environmental regulations.
Given I would elevate environment concerns my friends espouse to the status of national security concern (forced migrations of people who do not like America, natural disasters destabilizing the economy), it would make since for Libertarian minded people to ask for the social contract to be placed into 'war mode' to tackle that threat on that specific issue...unless of course it's not really that much of a threat, and/or people don't want to take the necessary sacrifices via rationing to curb it and just want to bitch and whine about something.
Ironically Trump's policies are grounded along these lines by and large, and his main area of reconciliation he needs to make is, in accordance with his 60 minutes interview, having federal law 'trump' state law on gun control. I would argue a strict constitutional stance as to federal jurisdiction over such an issue (enforcement of the 2nd amendment and the supreme court rulings broadening it to cover private firearm use), while the implied rights become jurisdiction of the states, gay civil unions...notice not marriage as it's religious and would be covered by the 1st amendment. then it would be up to congress to do it's job and make new amendments to bring issues under federal control.
Trump will end up helping these guys out more than the current Dem party will by strengthening their voice and they will attempt to vote him out in 4 years. A true leader raises even his detractors to a higher status than before, and increased political voice is the most pure way of raising someone's power in our form of government.
Had a very interesting conversation with a gay lady this weekend, friend of a friend. Safety clip and everything. The only thing I couldn't come to any sort of agreement on was kicking illegals out. she took the moralistic 'feelings' stance, I took the 'rule of law' stance. There is no middle ground and that's our primary issue in the justice system today. try to fix bad guys, or punish them? everything else there was a ton of common ground. I don't fault for someone for thinking with their heart and caring about them to the point of wanting to make an exception, but I'm concerned with down stream effects of making exceptions and the lack of proper enforcement of borders (national identity). The main thing I made clear to her is no government should be the arbiter of extremist thought, as she being down with other girls is extremist in some areas which is improper, as the issue becomes 'mandated morality' or 'free will morality'...well we're the land of the free, right? so I vote for that one. so, don't start telling others they are extremist as you are opening yourself to attack. we're all extremist in one way or another and it's up for society to discuss and form conclusions on what is right or wrong (good for society), not take the cheap route and point to the government and say 'well they said so, so it must be true!'
Gays banned from being with their partners in hospitals since they aren't recognized? Pursuit of happiness, quit fucking with them and let be happy.
Tired of being represented by other interests far away from where you live and where most of you agree something should be different through multiple layers of self government. Let the states decide on a whole myriad of issues.
Large DoD and militarized police force that encumbers the budget? Decrease the standing Army.
Even open borders is in certain republican Libertarian thought..ones that decrease the importance of national identity which I argue against, but welcome arguments against.
The main issues that would need to be reconciled is gun control and environmental regulations.
Given I would elevate environment concerns my friends espouse to the status of national security concern (forced migrations of people who do not like America, natural disasters destabilizing the economy), it would make since for Libertarian minded people to ask for the social contract to be placed into 'war mode' to tackle that threat on that specific issue...unless of course it's not really that much of a threat, and/or people don't want to take the necessary sacrifices via rationing to curb it and just want to bitch and whine about something.
Ironically Trump's policies are grounded along these lines by and large, and his main area of reconciliation he needs to make is, in accordance with his 60 minutes interview, having federal law 'trump' state law on gun control. I would argue a strict constitutional stance as to federal jurisdiction over such an issue (enforcement of the 2nd amendment and the supreme court rulings broadening it to cover private firearm use), while the implied rights become jurisdiction of the states, gay civil unions...notice not marriage as it's religious and would be covered by the 1st amendment. then it would be up to congress to do it's job and make new amendments to bring issues under federal control.
Trump will end up helping these guys out more than the current Dem party will by strengthening their voice and they will attempt to vote him out in 4 years. A true leader raises even his detractors to a higher status than before, and increased political voice is the most pure way of raising someone's power in our form of government.
Had a very interesting conversation with a gay lady this weekend, friend of a friend. Safety clip and everything. The only thing I couldn't come to any sort of agreement on was kicking illegals out. she took the moralistic 'feelings' stance, I took the 'rule of law' stance. There is no middle ground and that's our primary issue in the justice system today. try to fix bad guys, or punish them? everything else there was a ton of common ground. I don't fault for someone for thinking with their heart and caring about them to the point of wanting to make an exception, but I'm concerned with down stream effects of making exceptions and the lack of proper enforcement of borders (national identity). The main thing I made clear to her is no government should be the arbiter of extremist thought, as she being down with other girls is extremist in some areas which is improper, as the issue becomes 'mandated morality' or 'free will morality'...well we're the land of the free, right? so I vote for that one. so, don't start telling others they are extremist as you are opening yourself to attack. we're all extremist in one way or another and it's up for society to discuss and form conclusions on what is right or wrong (good for society), not take the cheap route and point to the government and say 'well they said so, so it must be true!'
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Trump has already telegraphed that all illegals won't be kicked out. He wants to get the violent criminals out, along with border security. Then he says he'll 'take a breath' and figure out what to do then. That's basically admitting that he's not going to remove all the illegals. So expect something like Reagan amnesty, only hopefully this time they actually do border security first.
starwolf_nexus
Veteran XV
More like her fake moralistic approach, there's nothing moral about allowing someone to rob resources you and your kinsmen/countrymen/etc... devoted to the education and well being of your offspring and your country's future.
It wasn't Illegals paying taxes to build those nice school systems illegals are using. It isn't Illegals paying taxes so that schools and courthouses and other government services are able to hire linguists to service them, It isn't Illegals paying to have extra paper forms specially made for a secondary language that they can use, etc...
It costs US resources to service THEM, that's resources devoted away from OUR children's future and our country's infrastructure so that they can compete in OUR nation while siphoning away resources and contributing very little.
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Here we go
Police raid mosques, flats across Germany as government bans Islamist group
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-security-raids-idUSKBN13A0MY?il=0
Police raid mosques, flats across Germany as government bans Islamist group
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-security-raids-idUSKBN13A0MY?il=0
Esteban_Villa
Veteran XV
Charity to others you have no vested interest in other than being a human is a common practice and accepted via millenia of practice.
Also killing all the leadership in the land next door and having your buds move in is also, but has fallen out of favor since the '40s.
I'm not saying either is right, but if the country decided to give x resources to y people cause you want to help them is fine, we argue things on a national level and your opinion is more in line with minem but her's isn't as poor as you argue, just not nuanced and fairly raw.
It's also used as a cause to interject ourselves, for better or worse, to get involved in conflicts such as helping the Yazidi people when Isis were going to throw about 50k of them into a pit if they were able to starve them to death. It cost us a lot of money, risked american lives, and maybe we will get a friendly government out of it? Maybe..?
I like keeping as many doors as open and acts of generosity as a back-end way of making others like us can have long term benefits when properly applied, and shouldn't be discounted as a valid political tool.
ScooBySnaCk
Administrator
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-idUSKBN1390HL
He looks sad knowing his shit is about to get ripped out
He looks sad knowing his shit is about to get ripped out
Captain Tele
Veteran³, Immigrant
Also - more Portland mugshots
A 14 year old was in a car. The protesters blocked a bridge - again. So - the 14 year old jumped out and opened fire with a Tek 9 after asking them to move. 'Murica.
some classy folks
maybe highway at night bad place to not get hit by cars?
I just recognized a guy I know in one of the mugshots. He's just a stupid kid. I feel bad because he lives with his parents who took him back in after he fucked up a little while ago and he was getting his shit back together. The fact that he got sucked into this ass-hattery is just stupid. They probably threw him out again. Dipshit.
Esteban_Villa
Veteran XV
mob mentality at it's finest in both anger and stupid forms
Captain Tele
Veteran³, Immigrant
seriously....their mob mentality making great argument for popular vote over electoral college
also.....this is pure EL OH EL
maybe i should thank john oliver for trump winning
also.....this is pure EL OH EL
maybe i should thank john oliver for trump winning
Pretty sure this thread has achieved it's purpose.
Pls lock and HOF before Dem crybaby stuff ruins the sweet pages of Trumpiphant Victory
Although I would like to see a gif made of Trump's face on King Kong on the Empire State with Hillary & cronies being swatted in their biplanes
then lock
Pls lock and HOF before Dem crybaby stuff ruins the sweet pages of Trumpiphant Victory
Although I would like to see a gif made of Trump's face on King Kong on the Empire State with Hillary & cronies being swatted in their biplanes
then lock
